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#230172 - 08/21/11 12:10 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: Richlacal]
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Originally Posted By: Richlacal
By the way, You have a Very well thought out kit, I hope you don't need it but glad you have it!


Many thanks go to my fellow ETSers for helping me sort it out in early summer!

Originally Posted By: Richlacal
the rubberbands/innertube are very handy, multi-use & lightweight


Good ideas. Thanks! I've got long hair so usually keep a few hair elastics in there. Better double check. wink


Edited by bacpacjac (08/21/11 12:53 PM)
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#230173 - 08/21/11 12:14 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: LED]
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Originally Posted By: LED
I pack all my chem lights in hard containers. Right now I'm using plastic tube mailers. They weight next to nothing and do a good job of protecting the chem lights. Never had one fail, and I've gone through a lot of them.

You also have to make sure they are not broken before you buy them. If you shake an unused light stick it makes a distinct rattle, which means the glass vial inside has not been broken. Once the glass vial has been broken, it makes a completely different sound.


Thanks LED, Hikermor and Jeanette. I like snap lights, but you're right that ensuring they're in good shape and protected is important. I've taken your advice and put some in a lightweight plastic tube to protect them. I also check them regularly.
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#230174 - 08/21/11 12:22 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: bigreddog]
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Originally Posted By: bigreddog
why carry a folder (for preference I consider a fixed blade to be stronger and safer)


I debated carrying a folder over the summer. As we move into and through fall, gathering and processing firewood will become more difficult. A fixed blade is definitelty a smart upgrade. Thanks!

Originally Posted By: bigreddog
whether some sort of shelter should be in the on body kit (if the shtf then I can imagine situations where lighting a fire can be almost impossible, but wrapping oneself in a heatsheet / trash bag etc might be very useful).


Smart idea! Think I'll move the heatsheet in a pocket and and a 2-person bivvy to the kit.

Originally Posted By: bigreddog
Also no mention of spare cordage in the shelter kit, which might be useful.


I doubled the nylon cord and duct tape in my Ritter AMK PSK, and also wear a paracord belt that has maybe 60 ft of cordage. There's also 2 ft of paracord in my necklace.
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#230175 - 08/21/11 12:33 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: NuggetHoarder]
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Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
You might want some repair t[ch like this one: http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/1%20Qt.%20Emergency%20Water%20Bag.htm Or you could just carry a condom for water carry.


I've got a ziplock bag in my PSK. Forget to mentio it, sorry!

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
You also have two bic lighters and some matches but I don't see any other fire making tools. I'd add at least a ferrocium rod and maybe a fresnel lens too in case you get hopelessly wet.


I've got a firesteel on my lanyard. I'm debating adding a mag block to my PSK as well. Wet tinder in the fall makes it worth the (little) extra weight.

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
I'd add a small whistle since an air horn is only good for a short time.


I've got three already - one on my lanyard, one on my keychain and one in my PSK.

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
I'd add a pair of leather work gloves unless you're used to working with your hands all day.


Good idea!

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
I'd add a second compass, even if it's just a button compass or zipper pull compass. You need a backup you


There's a button compass in my PSK.

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
I'd add extra batteries for all the lighting devices.


Good idea!

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
Some foil would come in handy as a windscreen for your stove or to wrap up any food you find.


Good idea!

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
With a pack as big as yours (55L) I imagine you still have lots of space in there. Since we're talking about a Fall weather load-out, I'd beef up the shelter a bit. Maybe add an Exped downmat or some cheaper pad if you are trying to keep costs down. You could also upgrade to the AMK thermal bivy bags instead of just heatsheets.


I carried a lighweight, hand-knit wool blanket during the summer. I'm debating putting it back in but think a thermarest would have more value now, considering that we're both carrying extra wool clothing now. I am moving the heatsheet to My pocket and adding a 2-person bivy to my shelter kit. Great suggestions!

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
If you will be with your son stuck in the woods, perhaps something to pass the time like a deck of cards or dice or a mini backgammon set or a little AM/FM radio.


Good idea. He has a little deck of cards in his kit but it can't hurt to put one in mine too.

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
You don't have anything for food gathering like fishing kit or snare kit. Perhaps they are inappropriate for your area, but food gathering equipment might be something to add.


There's a little fishing kit and wire in my PSK. I figure I can also use my cordage for snares.

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
Since this is also your get home bag, I don't see anything for self-defense. I'd start with a firearm or at least have an ASP baton, or a monkey fist ball bearing key chain, or some pepper spray, or a street legal knife like a Boker Subcom, neck knife, or even a retractable box cutter razor.


I do have a monkey fist on my keychain. (forgot to mention it - sorry.)

Originally Posted By: NuggetHoarder
Overall a very nice kit you have. I like that you're carrying a lot of stuff on your person, that's something that I learned only recently from this website.


Kudos to our fellow ETSers!


Edited by bacpacjac (08/21/11 01:14 PM)
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#230176 - 08/21/11 12:38 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: Medicineball]
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Originally Posted By: Medicineball
How much does the air horn weigh? I'd be hesitant to bring it, because I don't trust pressurized things to stay pressurized. I do agree with others, however, about a whistle. Worth the ounce and always works.


It's very light and takes up very little space. It's also very easy to operate (push the red top/horn piece) onto the white cannister piece.
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#230177 - 08/21/11 12:47 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: bacpacjac]
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Just a friendly reminder of what's in the Ritter AMK PSK. I forget sometimes too. wink

-Spark-Lite™ Firestarter
-4 Spark-Lite™ Tinder-Quik™ -
-Fox-40® Rescue Howler™ Survival Whistle
-Rescue Flash™ Signal Mirror
-20mm Survival Compass
-Duct Tape
-Stainless Steel Utility Wire
-Braided Nylon Cord
-#69 Black Nylon Thread
-Fishing Kit
-Heavy Duty Sewing Needle
-4 Safety Pins
-Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil
-#2 Pencil and Waterproof Notepaper
-#22 Scalpel Blade
-Kit Specific Illustrated Survival Instructions - authored by Doug Ritter
-Contents List
-Fresnel Lens Magnifier
Pocketsize Clear Vinyl Pouch
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#230178 - 08/21/11 12:51 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: bacpacjac]
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Just added 3 sleeves of Starbucks Viva instant coffee. wink
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#230190 - 08/21/11 08:41 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: bacpacjac]
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Originally Posted By: bacpacjac

SIGNALING KIT:
-bear bell
-small air horn


Excellent idea bacpacjac. I also carry a small, marine air horn when camping. Mostly for curious bears and coyotes.

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#230195 - 08/21/11 10:32 PM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: bacpacjac]
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all that for a day hike kit? Where do you hike?

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#230200 - 08/22/11 12:51 AM Re: Seasonal Hiking Kit Repack [Re: tomfaranda]
bacpacjac Offline
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Originally Posted By: tomfaranda
all that for a day hike kit? Where do you hike?


"Hi. I'm bacpacjac and I'm an over-prepper."

I do fight an on-going battle with over-packing. That's why I seek guidance here. wink

This paticular kit is for long day/night hikes and paddles, more than a few hours walk back to civilization, and often in the company of 1-12 youth. It's also my get-home bag for my daily commute.

For shorter hikes, closer to the pavement, I take a scaled down fanny pack kit (FAK, headlamp, water and snacks) and my on-body EDC.

Hypothermia starts to become a very real threat in these parts around this time of year. Shelter, fire and food move up the priority list as a result.


Edited by bacpacjac (08/22/11 01:25 AM)
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