Last Christmas (a year ago) I was helping my brother build a house in Fort McMurray, with daytime highs of -30 C. <img src="images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> He had a couple of rented propane heaters in the basement. We found out that the piezo-electric barbeque starter he had bought was NOT a good choice - I had to drive to the Mac's Milk to pick up a couple of books of paper matches. At least they could start a fire at 30 below. <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />