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#228844 - 07/31/11 05:40 AM Snow Peak Giga Power Stove
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A most excellent canister stove. Perfect for a quick boil.

This morning, I timed it using an old Primus Litech Kettle (aluminum) and a GSI Glacier Cup (stainless steel).

Both had 16 ounces of water even though that is more than the safe amount to boil in the cup since the water level is only about 1/2 inch from the top.

The Primus kettle boiled in 2 minutes 45 seconds and the cup took 4 minutes. For both of them, I did not run the stove full throttle, but just enough to have the bottoms covered with the flames. So since the kettle has a larger footprint, it had a bigger flame.





On a side note, for those who use the GSI cup, the Primus lid fits perfectly as an improvised lid that requires zero effort. If I don't pack my kettle, I use the lid as part of my nested water/cooking solution.



And when my tea is ready, the stove is cool enough to handle and put away.

Verdict: Great stove! Small, light, not too expensive, and boils up very fast, and it can simmer if needed. The down side is the simmer isn't that great as I can't get it very low without putting it out. Maybe if I tighten the valve?
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#228871 - 07/31/11 09:36 PM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: aloha]
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The GS-100 is definitely a very nice little stove. Very solid. It's not the best at simmering, though, is it?

Interesting that the kettle lid fits the GSI cup. Generally, in terms of efficiency, you're going to be better off with a wide, short pot than a narrow, tall pot. If you see the flame going up the sides of the pot, that's wasted heat.

The basics of stove fuel efficiency:
1. Turn it down! A low flame is much more efficient. Avoid flame "spillage" where the flames go up the side of a pot. For this reason, a wide, short pot is generally better than a narrow, tall pot.
2. Use a lid. Escaping steam = escaping heat = wasted fuel.
3. Use a windscreen. Not using a windscreen can result in up to a 300% increase in fuel use -- or your pot never coming to a boil.

You can also use things like post cooking pot-cozies where you turn off the flame, take the pot off the stove, and put the pot into a cozy to keep it warm. The contents of the pot will continue to cook, but without using any fuel. A heat exchanger also adds to efficiency, but a heat exchanger is sort of the "icing on the cake." Use the basic three above first.

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#228873 - 07/31/11 10:12 PM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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I have an old all copper Revere Ware kettle I keep for car/truck camping. Best I've got to bring water to a boil.
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#228942 - 08/01/11 10:37 PM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Originally Posted By: Hikin_Jim
The GS-100 is definitely a very nice little stove. Very solid. It's not the best at simmering, though, is it?

Interesting that the kettle lid fits the GSI cup. Generally, in terms of efficiency, you're going to be better off with a wide, short pot than a narrow, tall pot. If you see the flame going up the sides of the pot, that's wasted heat.

The basics of stove fuel efficiency:
1. Turn it down! A low flame is much more efficient. Avoid flame "spillage" where the flames go up the side of a pot. For this reason, a wide, short pot is generally better than a narrow, tall pot.
2. Use a lid. Escaping steam = escaping heat = wasted fuel.
3. Use a windscreen. Not using a windscreen can result in up to a 300% increase in fuel use -- or your pot never coming to a boil.

You can also use things like post cooking pot-cozies where you turn off the flame, take the pot off the stove, and put the pot into a cozy to keep it warm. The contents of the pot will continue to cook, but without using any fuel. A heat exchanger also adds to efficiency, but a heat exchanger is sort of the "icing on the cake." Use the basic three above first.

HJ



Mahalo Jim.

Yeah, I agree with you. I try to get the flames to just reach the edge of the bottom of whatever I am cooking in. Much easier to do with an adjustable stove! Less fiddling with height.

And I like the wider base too.

If the GigaPower had a good simmer adjustment, and could be turned way down, it would be a perfect stove IMHO.

For now, it has to settle for pretty freakin' good.

The kettle is old. The newer ones probably have wider openings on top. But the lid fitting the GSI cup is a nice bonus.
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#229160 - 08/04/11 07:46 PM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: aloha]
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I took my Giga Power (GST-100) stove out last night. I was actually able to get a pretty low flame.

I wonder if you got an oddball? What conditions are you using yours in? I was in about 90F weather with light wind (I was using a windscreen). I had not problem getting what I would call a simmering flame.

The only real problem I've had with the GST-100 is that it has such a small flame that my pot often gets a hot spot right under the flame. For real simmering, I prefer a wider burner head. But as for the flame adjustment itself, my GST-100 turns down pretty low and still maintains a stable flame.

HJ


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#229192 - 08/05/11 01:11 AM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: aloha]
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I always use my Giga Power with Snow Peak fuel canisters. don't know if that makes a lot of difference but I never have any issues with the Giga Power. I use the Snow Peak windscreen and a fold up aluminum one. I can adjust the flame at will. Easy to use stove!
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#229201 - 08/05/11 01:54 AM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: widget]
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Originally Posted By: widget
I always use my Giga Power with Snow Peak fuel canisters. don't know if that makes a lot of difference but I never have any issues with the Giga Power. I use the Snow Peak windscreen and a fold up aluminum one. I can adjust the flame at will. Easy to use stove!
The brand of fuel generally shouldn't make any difference unless you start getting into colder weather. If the temperature of the fuel (not the air temperature) falls below about 40F/5C, then the brand of fuel starts to matter. For temperatures where your fuel is going to get colder than about 40F/5C, pick a brand that is isobutane and propane only (no "regular" butane). In other words, don't get Coleman, Primus, Optimus, or Glowmaster brands. Instead get MSR, Brunton, Jetboil, or Snow Peak which do not contain "regular" butane.

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#229205 - 08/05/11 02:13 AM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Jim, I think my thick and clumsy fingers just crank it too much one way or the other since simmering isn't usually required when boiling water. I probably don't take the time and care to adjust it properly. Will try to adjust delicately next time I use it. Unless I am just in a hurry to pour coffee in me.
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#229210 - 08/05/11 02:43 AM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: aloha]
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Let me know how it goes...

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#229211 - 08/05/11 03:10 AM Re: Snow Peak Giga Power Stove [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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