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#228933 - 08/01/11 06:16 PM Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter
Dagny Offline
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Whether a hiking companion is canine or human, their injury or exhaustion could turn a modest day hike into an overnighter -- as was the case here.

Thanks to another ETS member, I carry more First Aid items for my Samoyed now than I used to -- with special emphasis on paw injury. Gidget walks everyday on sidewalks and asphalt and frequently on gravel so her paws are pretty tough. Still, there are many ways to come up lame on a hike. And she's getting older so I have to take that into account these days.

I've occasionally considered how a stretcher might be rigged for her (50 lbs) using daypacks, hiking poles and paracord but I haven't actually tried to rig one or try it out.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/07/3...g-out-on-trail/

Dog Gone Tired! Pooch Airlifted From Angeles National Forest After Pooping Out On Trail

July 31, 2011 11:59 PM

SAN DIMAS (CBS) — An afternoon hike turned into an overnight ordeal when a couple whose 80-pound dog joined them for the trek couldn’t make it back down the trail....

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#228934 - 08/01/11 06:44 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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Try a pocket hammock, made of netting, as a litter. String it under a pole and it can be carried by two. As long as the injuries can handle the position, it works well.

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#228935 - 08/01/11 07:12 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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Great suggestion, Montanero, thanks.

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#228940 - 08/01/11 10:08 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: gonewiththewind]
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Originally Posted By: Montanero
Try a pocket hammock, made of netting, as a litter. String it under a pole and it can be carried by two. As long as the injuries can handle the position, it works well.


Also works well with hog tied Panamanian Dignity Battalion members that won't go quietly once convinced that hurting their own countrymen is not working and playing well with others. But that was 1989

With either, you must watch for positional asphyxiation.

I digress. . . .
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#228950 - 08/02/11 03:54 AM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Desperado]
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Originally Posted By: Desperado
Also works well with hog tied Panamanian Dignity Battalion members that won't go quietly once convinced that hurting their own countrymen is not working and playing well with others.

LOL!

I liked this bit in the article:

"The couple, who did not have clothing or camping supplies, was cold when they were picked up, but were said to be doing fine."

I was not aware that naked hiking was a popular pastime in Angeles National Forest. That must require a great deal of sun block and insect repellent.
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#228952 - 08/02/11 04:36 AM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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If you carry a heatsheet, you could rig a blanket carry with two poles and two people.
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#228960 - 08/02/11 01:25 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: KI6IW]
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Originally Posted By: KI6IW
If you carry a heatsheet, you could rig a blanket carry with two poles and two people.


I'm not sure a heatsheet would be strong enough for a larger dog. However, I think one of the Sportsmen blankets would work.

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#228962 - 08/02/11 01:48 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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A couple of thoughts after reading the article Dagny linked. Always carry something to wrap pads in case of injury. Vetwrap with padding and a boot if possible. Also from the article this dog became tired and weak. My guess heat and stress from the situation. Canine rehyration tablets or packets are always a good idea to carry with dogs and I always carry a couple small packs of honey to counter shock. Watch your dog closely and stop before the dog gets into trouble.

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#228966 - 08/02/11 03:35 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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A homemade stretcher could be made from double layers of ripstop nylon with an attached flap from the bottom to turn it into a pocket for a travois, or just to keep the dog secure. Wide sleeves on each side could accommodate scrounged poles (secure with cable ties to prevent slipping if used as a travois).

There are also those one-wheeled deer trolley things, but they're probably too bulkly for everyday, what-if use.

But even a tarp or blanket would do in a pinch.

If a person wanted to be more pro-active on paw injuries, get some dog boots and get your pup used to wearing them.

Sue

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#228977 - 08/02/11 06:46 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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I feel for these folks. When I got my dog, Sierra, I'd hoped to have a good camping companion. She loved going nuts and taking off when we were in the woods in Missouri. Never came back worth a d@mn, but we were working on that.

Then she went and got cancer, and had a leg amputated.

Now my tripod gets tired after a half-mile walk. So much for any more camping with her.

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#228982 - 08/02/11 07:29 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Mark_M]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_M

I liked this bit in the article:

"The couple, who did not have clothing or camping supplies, was cold when they were picked up, but were said to be doing fine."

I was not aware that naked hiking was a popular pastime in Angeles National Forest. That must require a great deal of sun block and insect repellent.

Apparently adventuring naked is not just a Texas thing...

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Edited by Blast (08/02/11 07:29 PM)
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#228987 - 08/02/11 08:16 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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So, as a society, we are now air evac'ing tired dogs?

Good lord, no wonder we are trillions of dollars in debt.



Edited by duckear (08/02/11 08:16 PM)

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#228988 - 08/02/11 08:51 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: duckear]
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I'd rather pay my share to rescue dogs with cut feet than rescue repeatedly dumb people. But that's just me.

And the dog probably didn't ask to go, nor pick the trail.

I read some years back that SAR-dog search teams noticed that search dogs searching loose rarely got cut feet, even in destroyed buildings, but dogs searching on lead frequently did.

Sue

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#228997 - 08/02/11 09:44 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Mark_M]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_M

I liked this bit in the article:

"The couple, who did not have clothing or camping supplies, was cold when they were picked up, but were said to be doing fine."


"They are editer desrevs a english spelt and gramma chequer!"


The question I have is "why didn't the couple notice the dog was having foot pad problems earlier and either discontinue the hike or treat him earlier?" They could have saved the dog, themselves and their rescuers a whole lot of grief.

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#228999 - 08/02/11 10:06 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: duckear]
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Originally Posted By: duckear
So, as a society, we are now air evac'ing tired dogs?

Good lord, no wonder we are trillions of dollars in debt.



It isn't clear from the rather superficial article, but the chances are the helicopter was involved right from the get go. It is more and more common to use a helo in the initial stages of a search operation.

Once the chopper is on scene, you might as well use it for evacuation. I doubt that any ground team, faced with a dog needing evacuation, would call for helicopter assistance.

Pet rescue is definitely a gray area, but our unit almost always responded - for the training, if nothing else. For years ad years the largest voluntary contribution we ever received for any rescue operation was one where we lifted a stranded doggie from the depths of a mine shaft, which is not a trivial undertaking.
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#229002 - 08/02/11 11:54 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: MDinana]
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Originally Posted By: MDinana
I feel for these folks. When I got my dog, Sierra, I'd hoped to have a good camping companion. She loved going nuts and taking off when we were in the woods in Missouri. Never came back worth a d@mn, but we were working on that.

Then she went and got cancer, and had a leg amputated.

Now my tripod gets tired after a half-mile walk. So much for any more camping with her.


Tripod, thats funny. I bet she loves those walks. You can still take her car camping, I'm sure she'd love to lounge around the campsite.

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#229014 - 08/03/11 02:20 AM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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From the article:

Quote:
he grew too tired, forcing his owners to call police for help.



Of course, in some areas of the country, I have read a rather large number of 911 calls are of folks complaining of being ripped off in drug deals gone bad, so this is not so out of ordinary anymore in 2011.

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#229026 - 08/03/11 04:19 AM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Blast]
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Heck! Even the dog was naked!

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#229035 - 08/03/11 11:55 AM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: hikermor]
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Pet rescue is definitely a gray area, but our unit almost always responded - for the training, if nothing else. For years ad years the largest voluntary contribution we ever received for any rescue operation was one where we lifted a stranded doggie from the depths of a mine shaft, which is not a trivial undertaking.


Our team also performs animal rescues. Both as a training opportunity and to prevent the owner/others from attempting to perform the rescue, getting into trouble and then we have a potential life threatening situation.

Pete

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#229038 - 08/03/11 01:11 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: LED]
MDinana Offline
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Originally Posted By: LED
Originally Posted By: MDinana
I feel for these folks. When I got my dog, Sierra, I'd hoped to have a good camping companion. She loved going nuts and taking off when we were in the woods in Missouri. Never came back worth a d@mn, but we were working on that.

Then she went and got cancer, and had a leg amputated.

Now my tripod gets tired after a half-mile walk. So much for any more camping with her.


Tripod, thats funny. I bet she loves those walks. You can still take her car camping, I'm sure she'd love to lounge around the campsite.

She seems to like any walk.

"Lounge?" My dog doesn't lounge. We call her "tornado" sometimes ... but her name is Sierra (as in, Sierra Nevada mtns). We would, but lots of times my wife and I car camp only when traveling, not as a dedicated past time. So the questions becomes, what do to with her while we're doing an activity (ie museum, winery, etc)


Edited by MDinana (08/03/11 01:12 PM)

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#230303 - 08/22/11 11:22 PM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: Dagny]
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"Good lord, no wonder we are trillions of dollars in debt."

It could be the cost of a helo flight that caused it, or it could be giving/loaning a trillion dollars to banks or spending a trillion dollars to bring peace and rainbows to the folks in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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#230321 - 08/23/11 05:20 AM Re: Tired-injured dog turns day hike into overnighter [Re: drahthaar]
MDinana Offline
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Originally Posted By: drahthaar
"Good lord, no wonder we are trillions of dollars in debt."

It could be the cost of a helo flight that caused it, or it could be giving/loaning a trillion dollars to banks or spending a trillion dollars to bring peace and rainbows to the folks in Iraq and Afghanistan.

lol

I'll let you know if I see either.

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