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#227685 - 07/12/11 02:58 AM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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Originally Posted By: Crowe
Aspirin - (reduces heart attack risk, maybe)/Pain Killer


ASA also helps decrease mortality from an acute MI, not just prevent it. Use the chewable children's style for fast uptake.

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#227686 - 07/12/11 03:20 AM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
LesSnyder Offline
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you might include some meclizine (Bonine, Antivert) for acute dizziness, nausea due to motion sickness... or benign positional vertigo

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#227688 - 07/12/11 03:50 AM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: bacpacjac]
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Registered: 07/01/11
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Loc: Appalachians
Besides some of the items mentioned, I carry Caladryl, hydrocortisone cream, sudafed, tincture of iodine, and vaseline.

The sudafed comes in handy because if you wake up with a cold, the sudafed will completely dry your nose out and you can hike better. It was originally developed for the astronauts because they couldn't blow their noses while wearing a suit/helmet. You only need two tiny pills for the whole day.

If you aren't in an area with nasty bugs, then the Caladryl and hydrocortisone may be overkill. In the south, they are definitely required carry for me.

The vaseline is for covering dug-in ticks which makes them release, and also doubles as an emergency fuel, medicine for chapped lips, and jock itch or any kind of rash.

While neosporin and a band-aid are useful for cuts, The tincture of iodine is for scrapes and then can be left open to the air.

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#227690 - 07/12/11 04:03 AM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
Phaedrus Offline
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Loc: Big Sky Country
I pretty much carry the standard stuff, but I always keep some Medi-Lyte electrolyte tablets in all my FAKs. Most of the kits large enough to hold it have Burn-Away Plus, too. And I like to keep a couple forms of Hemcon/Celox as well.
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#227694 - 07/12/11 09:17 AM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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Loc: Beer&Cheese country
For strictly day trips:
Tylenol
Motrin
Benadryl

Everything else can wait til I get home.

And, if I can get on my soapbox for a minute... aspirin. It is NOT a miracle, cure-all drug. Sure, it's light and cheap, so fine, if you want to carry it, go ahead. But don't think that popping an aspirin will stop a heart attack cold in its tracks. Ask ANYONE that's been treated for a heart attack - you don't get an aspirin and the staff walks away. It stops platelet aggregation, ie, clots. It doesn't break down the clot that's already there, it doesn't relieve spasm of blood vessels, it doesn't make your heart return to it's normal function. Yeah, sure, you may decrease some of the damage of a heart attack, but it's still going to be happening.

Bottom line - if you get a heart attack in the woods, you're going to make it out, or you're going to die. A few aspirin isn't going to do as much as a lot of people seem to think.

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#227695 - 07/12/11 11:20 AM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Eastree]
bws48 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 831
Loc: Anne Arundel County, Maryland
+1 for adding Ibuprofen in addition to the Acetaminophen. The two work differently on reducing pain. As long as you stay within the label recommendations of each, you can take them at the same time. The combined pain killing effect is greater than either alone, and in some cases, equals that of low dose opioids.

I found this out about 10 years ago when I had surgery and was in a lot of post-operative pain. Any opioid they gave me provoked severe dizziness and vomiting. I was given them both and it controlled the pain. Other Doctors I'm asked since then confirm that this is an acceptable approach when the pain is not controllable by either alone.

The scenario I'm thinking of is a broken bone and the potential for serious pain. The combo might make the pain bearable. Plus, you don't have to worry about trying to carry around a controlled substance.

Note: always double check with your Doctor or Pharmacist; they may have a different opinion,
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#227696 - 07/12/11 12:00 PM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: bws48]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
Basically I go easy on drugs - I am not into playing doctor. I will pack some baby aspirin, perhaps ibuprofen for personal use.
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#227697 - 07/12/11 12:53 PM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
gonewiththewind Offline
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Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
I carry what is necessary for the most threatening and most likely scenarios: Benadryl and epi-pens for anaphylaxis (My son has a prescription), ibuprofen for inflammation and fever, acetaminophen for fever and pain. I do have some Imodium, but I would hesitate to use it except to just get a person to a place where they can more practically deal with the problem. Imodium does not treat the disease, it only paralyzes the intestinal muscles to prevent evacuation of the bowels. It is best to get it all out and hydrate to actually get better. I guess it depends on how far you have to go to get to treatment. Rice and charcoal (hard wood and small amounts mixed in the rice) are good for getting the patient better if you can't get them out; it helps get rid of the cause, provides nutrition and slows down the bowel movements. When it comes to fever, unless it is higher than 102 (medical professionals weigh in on that number), I would not try to reduce it if you are in a remote location far from treatment, The fever will actually help to kill the infection and is not dangerous unless it gets too high. I know this thread was dealing with OTC meds, but I do carry Cipro as well. I carry it when I travel, and have it for camping and backpacking when I need it. it is good for intestinal infections (not parasites) and other infections. I would hesitate to use it on anyone else unless I felt the risks justified it though. If you have a cooperative doctor and can demonstrate that you are going on some sort of expedition, they can give you prescriptions for these things and instruction on their use.

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#227698 - 07/12/11 01:05 PM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
Quote:

Spring boarding off of the daypack help topic, which OTC meds do you find essential to have in a daypack first aid kit (or any kit for that matter) and for why?

Off the top of my head, I go with:

Benedryl- Allergic Reactions to foods, plants, insect bites

Acetaminophen (Tylenol)- Fever Reducer/Pain Killer

Aspirin - (reduces heart attack risk, maybe)/Pain Killer

Pepto-Bismol Chew Tablets- Nausea/Heartburn

Immodium AD - Anti-Diarrheatic

Neo-sporin - Anti-Biotic Wound Goo (I think I should patent that)

Saline Solution - Typically sold as nasal spray or contact cleaner, but good for sterile irrigation.

Any others you find indispensable?


DF118 Forte (Dihydrocodeine), Tetracycline, Ibuprofen, Paracetamol + Caffeine combo, Benedryl or Zirtek, Malt Whiskey miniature, Aspirin, Oralyte and a small 10ml bottle of Bog Myrtle essential oil.

Some of the above aren't OTC meds though and Immodium isn't carried (better out than in and the Oralyte is used to take care of the loss of fluids, salts etc)

Edit - Forgot about the Dequacaine Lozenges



Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (07/12/11 01:10 PM)

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#227700 - 07/12/11 01:25 PM Re: Essential OTC meds [Re: Crowe]
gonewiththewind Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
Not to divert the thread, but here is a link to the Special Operations Medical Handbook on scribd. You will either have to upload a document of pay a small fee for downloading it: Special Operations Medical Handbook

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