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#226926 - 06/29/11 08:21 PM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: Hikin_Jim]
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hikin_Jim
For future reference for me: Survey the area when camping near a stream that might flash flood. Where is my "bug out spot" to hunker down in if I need to get away from the stream?


Good move. John Long wrote about hiking with some friends in arroyo country when he was younger, and they barely escaped a flash flood that thundered through. Read about it here.

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#226970 - 06/30/11 03:04 PM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: bsmith]
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Does anyone know a method to download and save the video file?

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#227000 - 06/30/11 11:48 PM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
raptor Offline
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Originally Posted By: Glock-A-Roo
Does anyone know a method to download and save the video file?

I only know how to do it in Opera:
Empty the Disk cache, load the video, look for the recent and big file in cache (it should be 33.3 MB in size), then rename the file extension to *.flv. Quite a lot of video players support this format, for example Media player classic HC or VLC player. Let me know if you need more detailed instructions.

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#227001 - 07/01/11 12:22 AM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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http://videomedia.vcstar.com/media/videos/2011/06/rescuevideo.mp4

Just right click on the above link and select 'save target as' etc




Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (07/01/11 12:29 AM)

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#227006 - 07/01/11 03:08 AM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
Just right click on the above link and select 'save target as' etc


Thank you sir! Worked great.

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#227008 - 07/01/11 03:42 AM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: bsmith]
ireckon Offline
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Questions that I didn't get answered from the video...

Was it luck that the rescuers on the road saw the hikers' lights?

Or did the hikers intentionally signal the rescuers?

Did the hikers use S.O.S. at all?

What kind of headlights were the hikers using?
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#227009 - 07/01/11 04:10 AM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: ireckon]
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Pure luck. Unless you believe in God.

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#227038 - 07/01/11 03:22 PM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: ireckon]
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Originally Posted By: ireckon
Questions that I didn't get answered from the video...

Was it luck that the rescuers on the road saw the hikers' lights?
yes. what hikin jim said.
Originally Posted By: ireckon
Or did the hikers intentionally signal the rescuers?
no.
Originally Posted By: ireckon
Did the hikers use S.O.S. at all?
no.
Originally Posted By: ireckon
What kind of headlights were the hikers using?
not stated.

read the accompanying story here.

and

sierra club newsletter - page 7
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#227046 - 07/01/11 05:45 PM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: bsmith]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: bsmith
[url=http://www.vcstar.com/rescue/]read the accompanying story here.


According to that article, once the rescuers made initial contact, the rescuers yelled and the hikers yelled back. Apparently, the distance was so far that they were basically just communicating noise (and flashlight beams).

There were no whistles? OK, I know it's easy to armchair quarterback, but this seems like the textbook moment to be using a whistle and S.O.S. (by flashlight beam and/or whistle). It seems like the hikers were otherwise prepared. I'm confused.
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#227057 - 07/01/11 07:42 PM Re: caught by a storm - retold [Re: bsmith]
ireckon Offline
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From the article at http://www.vcstar.com/rescue/

Quote:
...Van Sciver, in the next SAR wave with Mike Weber and David Musgrove, brought up two 200-foot ropes and gear for more anchors. Weber was struck by the four hikers' condition.

"They almost appeared to have given up," he said. "Seeing them really hit home that we were dealing with a very serious situation."

Crews built a 15-stick "change-of-direction" anchor — designed to limit fall in case the two anchors over by the hikers gave out — at the edge of where the rock slope ended and the lusher ravine began. Farther east, in the ravine, they built a 40-stick main anchor — the only bomb-proof one in the bunch.

The rappel line ran from the main anchor to the road below.

Van Sciver crossed the Class 4 traverse and brought gear and one end of what became the clothesline rope to Hartigan and the hikers...


That's remarkable to me. I'm not a climber, so that seems like the rescuers engineered a new rope system on the spot in harsh conditions.

To the climbers out there, can you tell me if the rescuers did something you can learn beforehand or if the rescuers mostly improvised on the spot?
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