#226257 - 06/21/11 12:12 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
[Re: celler]
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Geezer in Chief
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Registered: 08/26/06
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Loc: southern Cal
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My feeling on reading the article and looking at the recall history of this device is that it is not quite ready for prime time. It would be useful to have more information on the batteries that were in the unit.
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#226268 - 06/21/11 01:41 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
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Old Hand
Registered: 04/16/03
Posts: 1076
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I use a SPOT-2. It comes with Energizer Lithium AAA cells and the instructions say over and over: "only use lithium batteries" and "bring spare batteries".
Assuming the article is correct:
If the hiker in question put in his own rechargeables instead, it's his own darn fault if the unit ran out of power. Even if it did, he should have had some spares on hand. The LEDs on the SPOT-2 quite clearly indicate if the unit is powered and operating.
Of course, I have yet to see a specific statement that he had a SPOT-2 and not the original SPOT. I am not familiar with the original unit's instructions or interface.
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#226280 - 06/21/11 03:49 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
[Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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Registered: 02/20/09
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I have a SPOT-2 and have not had any trouble with it at all. No problems with reliability whatsoever. If I'm going on a long trip, naturally I replace the batteries. SPOT is very explicit about the kinds of batteries that should go in the unit - so just use what's recommended. I think it's the lithium batteries, but my memory is sketchy on that. The important thing is to carefully read their manual and DO what they say.
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#226282 - 06/21/11 04:48 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
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Enthusiast
Registered: 08/17/09
Posts: 305
Loc: Central Oregon
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Lots of great input. Thank you all. One thing I would add to the discussion is the importance of leaving a trip plan with that "responsible" person. A sample that I used is here: www.outdoorquest.biz/TripPlanV2.pdfBlake www.outdoorquest.biz
Edited by Outdoor_Quest (06/21/11 04:48 AM)
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#226288 - 06/21/11 06:41 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
[Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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Old Hand
Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 982
Loc: Norway
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The trouble with SPOT is that it is both a tracking device that is used on a regular basis (= eats batteries each time you go somewhere, and rechargeable makes sense) as well as an emergency device (= lithium primaries makes sense).
It is hard to fullfil both roles at the same time...
Of course, the logical solution is to carry spare lithiums at all times. Ideally, there should be a separate compartment in the SPOT unit for spare batteries. (Come on, it wouldn't be that hard to design that with only a slightly larger unit!). The trouble with keep2go tubes or similar robust containers is that those can be lost or left at home.
Personally, I hate using primaries for anything other than those "ONLY IN EMERGENCY" devices. If I had a spot, I am sure I would use it as a tracking device on some, but not all of my trips. I would bring spare lithium at all times, but would not hesitate to go against the factory instructions and feed it eneloop nimh when used as a tracking device. If I don't want tracking I'd feed it lithium primaries.
Why do I hate to use primaries? Because if you use them "a little" for two or three times in a row you loose track of how much juice there is left. Is it 70%, 50% or 25%? Unless you throw away a lot of half depleted batteries (a waste!) you never know how much time you have left before you have to change batteries.
With rechargeables (low self discharge nimh, in this case) you just recharge them. Always full - always ready, and you have a pretty good feeling of how long it takes before you need to change batteries.
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#226289 - 06/21/11 10:15 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
[Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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One thing I would add to the discussion is the importance of leaving a trip plan with that "responsible" person.
Absolutely totally a MUST DO, Blake. The more specific the better. Include all known and expected details, including maps!
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#226293 - 06/21/11 10:35 AM
Re: SPOT Beacon
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Veteran
Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 1419
Loc: Nothern Ontario
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One thing I would add to the discussion is the importance of leaving a trip plan with that "responsible" person.
Absolutely totally a MUST DO, Blake. The more specific the better. Include all known and expected details, including maps! Yes, a fully detailed trip plan is a must regardless if a SPOT or PLB is carried. I use a modified version of this plan/checklist. (PDF) which is printed and emailed to our primary contact person. The email also includes Google Maps / Earth coordinates of the intended route. The reason for the email is that in the event SAR is required, it is much easier to forward the email to SAR so that the info is much more readily available.
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