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#226244 - 06/20/11 10:59 PM I obviously need more practice.
samhain Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
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Wanted to see if I could start a fire with my fire steel today using only what natural tinder material in my yard. Talk about a lesson in humility!!

After about an hour of striking the fire steel into tinder bundles made of dried grass and when that didn't work, dried pine needles crushed up, I finally gave in and used my lighter just to try and redeem myself.

I always carry some jute in a little pocket medicine vial along with some matches. My lighter stays on a dummy-cord in my pocket at all times. There are lighter scattered throughout my pack and my fire pouch that I wear on my belt when I'm out hiking has cotton balls w/vaseline in addition to a magnesium stick. So I always have some "non-natural" tinder on hand with back ups. But I wanted to see if I could do it "au natural". Good thing I carry the artificial stuff. If I had to rely on being able to do it w/ just what was lying around, I would've been screwed....
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#226247 - 06/20/11 11:20 PM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 2463
Loc: Central California
You need real fine, real dry stuff. Be sure to mash grass up to create lots of "split ends," almost thread-like stuff.

And sometimes you just have a bad day.

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#226249 - 06/20/11 11:26 PM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
comms Offline
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Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1502
Loc: Mesa, AZ
Move to AZ, Samhain. I've probably won $100 in BBQ party bets, "starting a fire in the backyard without a flame, using whatever is in my pockets and what I find on the ground."

I'm not saying I can do that where you live or when I lived in PNW, (as I finger the firesteel in my pocket grin ) but its a suckers bet here!
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#226251 - 06/20/11 11:28 PM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
bacpacjac Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
A lesson in humility? Definitely. I can relate! I couldn't do it a few weeks ago at a camp (in Ontario), and wrote it off to weeks of rain and damp tinder. (Shavings from wet wood are still damp!)

Making a bird's nest-type tinder bundle to catch the spark sounds easy but it's not. You need lots of super dry, fluffy stuff and that's not as easy as it seems. We've got a few going but only after some dry hot patches.

One of our Scouts brought a zip-lock bag full of milkweed with him this weekend and got a one-match fire going quite nicely. The other kids thought it was magic. Not sure if it would have worked so well with the firesteel.


Edited by bacpacjac (06/21/11 12:21 AM)
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#226255 - 06/20/11 11:53 PM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: dweste]
samhain Offline
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thanks dweste.

I'm going to keep working at it until I get it come hell or high water.

I thought I had everything busted up fine enough but the sparks thought other-wise.

I hate it when inanimate objects disagree with me and win the argument.
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#226258 - 06/21/11 12:15 AM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
hikermor Offline
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It is one thing to use natural tinder in the southwest, especially Arizona, and quite another proposition in humid, muggy Louisiana. Just look at the current Arizona wildfires....
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#226263 - 06/21/11 12:52 AM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: hikermor]
samhain Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
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Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
True.

My heart goes out to those folks losing their homes or in danger of losing their homes right now.
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#226265 - 06/21/11 01:07 AM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
Eastree Offline
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Registered: 06/15/11
Posts: 62
Out of curiosity: Have you tried firing up some of those cotton balls with your fire steel? What about some magnesium shavings? If the issue *was* the natural tinder, such as too much moisture thanks to high humidity etc., that would help answer that question.

I still have absolutely zero experience with a fire steel (mine is on its way ... hopefully it's here soon!), and really no advice to give from personal experience.

But on the same line of thought, there's also a pretty good reason that char cloth and other portable tinders have been used for a very long time: There's never a guarantee of finding something that will catch a spark, so it makes sense to have at least something with you.

Having grown up in south Louisiana, I can remember well how perpetually wet things can be there.

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#226266 - 06/21/11 01:21 AM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
LesSnyder Offline
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Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 1680
Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
OOOO steel wool

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#226269 - 06/21/11 01:46 AM Re: I obviously need more practice. [Re: samhain]
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Registered: 04/05/07
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Loc: The People's Republic of IL
I can relate. It's a worthy pursuit. Good luck.
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