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#224467 - 05/27/11 09:11 PM Good games to teach scientific method?
dweste Offline
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Do you know of any good games that can teach the scientific method? Ideally the game would have an interesting and instructive subject matter suited to a wide age range.

Have you played any such game?

Thanks.

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#224489 - 05/28/11 12:39 AM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
DaveT Offline
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I don't know any games, but the group They Might Be Giants has a great CD and DVD combination called "Here Comes Science" that teaches a broad range of science information and is fun to listen to...

Here Comes Science

They also have "Here Come the ABCs" and "Here Comes the 123s."

Cheers

Dave

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#224498 - 05/28/11 05:20 AM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
Mark_R Offline
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If you're talking about deductive reasoning, the board games "Mastermind" and the various renditions of "Clue" (classic, regular, Harry Potter, Family Guy, etc.) are good for that.

http://www.amazon.com/Pressman-Toy-3018-...3215&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Parker-Brothers-40...3300&sr=1-1

I don't know of any games that will teach research, hypothesis, tests, analysis, and conclusions.
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#224670 - 05/30/11 04:29 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
Arney Offline
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I've never heard of a gamethat helps teach the scientific method. Actually, the only self-contained exercise that I can recall ever doing in school that encapsulates the whole process of the scientific method is when we did science fair projects. Besides that, everything else is just focusing on a facet of the overall process.

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#224675 - 05/30/11 06:12 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
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Great question - I'll ask around

Teacher

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#224686 - 05/30/11 07:31 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
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The first thing that comes to my mind is observation games. They could include:

-spot the difference in the pictures
-Kim's Game (a Scout game where you lay out a tray of small objects, let the players observe for a minute, and then cover up the tray. The players have to try to name/wirte down as many of the objects as they can remember
-optical illusion pictures (i.e. The faces/vase picture, pictures made up of other smaller pictures)
-search and find games (hide objects and have the players find them, or use a picture with pictures of ojects within it)

Love Clue and Mastermind! Battleship? Connect 4?
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#224687 - 05/30/11 07:43 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
dweste Offline
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There are probably legitimate reasons to consider a variety of approaches to be scientific methods, given the differences in sciences, but I was thinking primarily of the so-called hard sciences. I belive a fair rendition of the scientific method for hard science would be:

1. Observation / evidence gathering.
2. Creating or chosing plausible hypotheses as to what has been observed and gathered.
3. Designing experiments to support or eliminate hypotheses.
4. Carrying out the experiments.
5. Evaluating the experimental results, including statistical analyses of multiple test runs, to determine which hypotheses the observations and evidence best support.

That would be asking a lot from a game, but surely someone has at least taken a shot at it.



Edited by dweste (05/30/11 07:45 PM)

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#224689 - 05/30/11 07:55 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: dweste]
Teslinhiker Offline
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Originally Posted By: dweste
There are probably legitimate reasons to consider a variety of approaches to be scientific methods, given the differences in sciences, but I was thinking primarily of the so-called hard sciences. I belive a fair rendition of the scientific method for hard science would be:

1. Observation / evidence gathering.
2. Creating or chosing plausible hypotheses as to what has been observed and gathered.
3. Designing experiments to support or eliminate hypotheses.
4. Carrying out the experiments.
5. Evaluating the experimental results, including statistical analyses of multiple test runs, to determine which hypotheses the observations and evidence best support.

That would be asking a lot from a game, but surely someone has at least taken a shot at it.


All of the above I learned as kid from from every day life/exploration/experimenting and did not need a specific game to figure it out. Although times and technology have changed, I can also say that my kids have learned the same way...
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#224690 - 05/30/11 08:03 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: Teslinhiker]
dweste Offline
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Originally Posted By: Teslinhiker
All of the above I learned as kid from from every day life/exploration/experimenting and did not need a specific game to figure it out. Although times and technology have changed, I can also say that my kids have learned the same way...


Based on all the pseudoscience and gullible exclamations out there, I would say that puts you and your kids firmly in the minority!

Especially for areas where the theories and evidence are new to you, it would be great to have a meanigful introduction in game form.

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#224691 - 05/30/11 08:41 PM Re: Good games to teach scientific method? [Re: Teslinhiker]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: Teslinhiker
Originally Posted By: dweste
There are probably legitimate reasons to consider a variety of approaches to be scientific methods, given the differences in sciences, but I was thinking primarily of the so-called hard sciences. I belive a fair rendition of the scientific method for hard science would be:

1. Observation / evidence gathering.
2. Creating or chosing plausible hypotheses as to what has been observed and gathered.
3. Designing experiments to support or eliminate hypotheses.
4. Carrying out the experiments.
5. Evaluating the experimental results, including statistical analyses of multiple test runs, to determine which hypotheses the observations and evidence best support.

That would be asking a lot from a game, but surely someone has at least taken a shot at it.


All of the above I learned as kid from from every day life/exploration/experimenting and did not need a specific game to figure it out. Although times and technology have changed, I can also say that my kids have learned the same way...


This puts you ahead of me. Still, as a child, I would go to the Museum of Nature & Science, Dallas Nature Center, Duncanville Public Library and observe the rock formations at Ten Mile Creek. smile

Jeanette Isabelle
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