Good points Chaos. He started off thinking I was a nutter. (Ironic because it was his walk home during the 2003 East Coast blackout that put me firmly on this road.) He seems to be buying in slowly. We do talk about it, and he encourages the kids, but still rolls his eyes sometimes. I think the secret with him is believing that he might actually need it. (i.e. I bought us both a leatherman for our wedding anniversary a few years ago and it's edc for him now because he uses it all the time.)