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#214528 - 01/08/11 01:50 AM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: JBMat]
TeacherRO Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 2574
The answer is of course...It depends. For who? How far? Season? Reason?

Backpacking recommended weights are a good place to start.

Big picture? I'd avoid walking/ Bike, car, bus, bug in, etc.

I have a big pack (5,000 ci) ...and lots of options. I'll add what I need.

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#214533 - 01/08/11 02:23 AM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: hikermor]
Byrd_Huntr Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 1174
Loc: MN, Land O' Lakes & Rivers ...
Originally Posted By: hikermor
Originally Posted By: Teslinhiker

If we ever had the very unlikely need to "bugout" on foot,


I agree that the bug out scenario is pretty unlikely, some special situations excepted (hurricanes, perhaps). In most situations, I am going to hang out at home, where most of my resources are concentrated. If I have to leave and automobile travel is not feasible (a distinct possibility) I would start out on a bicycle, which will provide about three or four times the distance for the same effort. If I have to abandon the bike and walk, things are really getting tough.

I am most likely to walk in order to get back home, and unite with my family.


I agree....As I travel for a living, almost all of my planning and preparation revolves around getting back home where my chances of survival increase greatly. Although I may have to leave home to retrieve a family member, I cannot imagine a scenario (in my situation and area) where I would be forced to leave home and wander the land as a refugee.
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#216611 - 02/07/11 05:01 PM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: JBMat]
TeacherRO Offline
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Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 2574
Also, some of the best 'gear' weigh almost nothing:

A plan*
fitness
cash
Habitually topping off gas, water, food, etc


Teacher

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#216628 - 02/08/11 12:12 AM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: JBMat]
bacpacjac Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Everyone is going to have different needs and tolerences. i don't know how heavy my pack is now, but here's what i do:

whenever i add or change gear, or have to deal with an injury like i have for the last six months, i test it with a hike, see how it feels, readjust, and then take another test hike. the time to be sure isn't during an emergency.

i also build in options, like a lightweight, bag stuffed in that can hold non-essential redundancies, should something like an injury happen along the way. that way, i can easily shed gear and cache pass it off on someone else if i need too.
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#216630 - 02/08/11 12:28 AM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: TeacherRO]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3240
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
Also, some of the best 'gear' weigh almost nothing:

A plan*
fitness
cash
Habitually topping off gas, water, food, etc

Teacher


Very true. Add to that list: being elsewhere when the spam hits the fan. Definitely worthwhile; just about priceless in fact.


Edited by dougwalkabout (02/08/11 12:29 AM)

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#216634 - 02/08/11 01:26 AM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: dougwalkabout]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 12/06/10
Posts: 20
Loc: Virginia
Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
Very true. Add to that list: being elsewhere when the spam hits the fan. Definitely worthwhile; just about priceless in fact.

Yup, good call on that one!
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#216651 - 02/08/11 12:27 PM Re: How Much is Too Much [Re: JBMat]
bigreddog Offline
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Registered: 07/02/06
Posts: 253
2 thoughts -

1. as others have said, it depends on your plan, terrain, weather etc. As a rule, I will always match my kit to my plan, not the other way round (e.g. where are you bugging to, what do you need to get there - no point getting halfway there with a rucksack full of cool stuff)

2. You should be hiking with this pack regularly, so you know your capability, and can build on it. Fitness is task specific, and if you have to bug out, then don't presume you will be able to magically find some extra fitness reserve - I would expect the opposite

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