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#214742 - 01/11/11 12:00 PM Re: Can anyone do a $10 knife review? [Re: dougwalkabout]
Dagny Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
Re sharpening:

The biggest barrier IMHO is the belief that sharpening is somehow mystical and that ordinary mortals (you and I) can't do it.

To break that barrier, when I teach someone basic sharpening skills, I'll often start them with a carbon steel Opinel or Old Hickory. These respond very quickly to the learner's efforts, giving rapid feedback and encouragement.

The other place to start them is with kitchen knives. A thin-bladed paring or utility knife is a great thing to learn on (and it's highly practical in the bargain!).

My $0.02


And a value it is at 2 cents!

What sharpeners do you use?

My Old Hickory would be good practice.

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#214745 - 01/11/11 12:03 PM Re: Can anyone do a $10 knife review? [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
Dagny Offline
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Originally Posted By: EMPnotImplyNuclear
Originally Posted By: Dagny
Has anyone here ever experienced a catastrophic failure with a full-tang fixed blade -- cheap or otherwise?

Yup, a butchers knife snapped in half, hammer was unharmed, frozen chicken had some scars , true story smile



Sounds like a You Tubeable moment, if there were video.

The microwave is a wonderful invention. Peacefully defrosted a 6 lb package of hamburger for me this weekend (chili feed).

But if the microwave had broken, there's always the axe collection....

:-)

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#214752 - 01/11/11 02:27 PM Re: Can anyone do a $10 knife review? [Re: Dagny]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 982
Loc: Norway
Originally Posted By: Dagny

Has anyone here ever experienced a catastrophic failure with a full-tang fixed blade -- cheap or otherwise?


I've never had catastrophic failures with any kind of knife. I have some knives with large chips, nicks and scar - but an ugly nick does not render a knife completely useless.


Originally Posted By: Dagny

Sure, my Bark River Golok or Bravo-1 could chop a tree branch easier than my Moras (are those partial or full tang?)


All moras (that I know of) are partial tangs. They are often used as prime examples that partial tang knife, while not as strong as full tang, may still be highly functional, strong, durable - and cheap.

But then again, it could be argued that heavy batoning is not something the mora is designed to do. Real hardword is not that common in Scandinavia (except for oak, but there is an abundance of better bushcraft alternatives everywhere in Scandinavia). Different location = different wood = different tools.


Originally Posted By: Dagny

I don't carry any kind of knife sharpener in a pack and wonder if I should. And whether that should be stressed when carrying a cheaper knife that may not hold an edge as long as others? Seem to recall there are some pretty compact knife sharpeners around.


Good point. I have a "butterfly" design diamond sharpener that isn't overly heavy, with a medium/fine grit. Just the right size/efficiency compromise for a quick sharpening in the field.

The good thing about bringing a small sharpener in your pack is that you can enjoy a little sharpening quality time when you are exactly where you want to be with your knife: In the woods. Added benefit is that frequent quick sharpening will de-mystify the obtuse sharpening rituals and terminology.

Scandi grinds (which most mora's have) are quite easy to hand sharpend because the large bevel gives a large surface (contact area) between your stone and the bevel.

In the end, sharpening is all (or at least, mostly) about removing metal in the right place.

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#214781 - 01/12/11 01:45 AM Re: Can anyone do a $10 knife review? [Re: sybert777]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3241
Loc: Alberta, Canada
@Dagny (and anyone else interested):

I came across a series of YouTube tutorials that are a pretty good primer on knife sharpening. I don't agree with every last detail, but they do a decent job explaining the "why" as well as the "how."

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22thomas+stuckey%22+knife+sharpening&aq=f

I confess that I'm lazy about the stropping part. Some of the stuff I cut is quite fibrous, and I prefer a bit of sawtooth on the edge.

I also get newbies to use a 22-1/2 degree angle, because they can consistently find it (start with blade at 90* to the stone, half of that is 45*, half again is 22-1/2*). This doesn't apply to Moras, of course, where it's best to follow the factory bevel.

The sharpener I reach for most often is a medium grit diamond bench stone. Diamond cuts faster than the traditional "carborundum" stones I had used in the past. I have a very nice diamond bench stone from EZ-Lap, several small DMT ones for close-in work and serrations, and a fistful of cheap Chinese ones that are fairly decent considering I got them for $4.88 on sale.

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#214782 - 01/12/11 02:15 AM Re: Can anyone do a $10 knife review? [Re: sybert777]
Dagny Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC

Thank you very much, Doug. That's great information.

Knife sharpening's going to be my new focus. I do have a few sharpeners, just haven't practiced much.

Will start with my Old Hickory and a Mora.

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