#213710 - 12/27/10 08:48 PM
Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
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Reposted from my blog because I though some of you would like it. A bold person can get an almost infinite supply of free 5-gallon buckets. Restaurants, bakeries, and fast food joints are particularly good places to ask for these. At worst they'll say no, at best you'll be needing a truck to get them all home. So what does Blast do with free buckets? He turns them into uber-productive (hopefully) container garden thingies aka Global Buckets. FinishedBuckets by merriwether, on Flickr Just finished these two hours ago. Meanwhile the rest of the world seems to be wrapped in blizzards. I love Houston!! Global buckets are based on the self-watering Earth Boxes, but are made from easy to find scrap materials. I did have to buy some 1.5" diameter PVC pipe and the soil mixture for inside the buckets, but everything else was just laying around. Global bucket by merriwether, on Flickr 1. inner bucket 2. outer bucket 3. fill tube made from 1.5" PVC tubing 4. cotton cloth to wick water from reservoir to soil 5. soil (mix of peat moss, topsoil, and vermiculite) 6. gap between two buckets which acts as the water reservoir 7. henweigh BottomeOfInnerBucket by merriwether, on Flickr This is the bottom of the inner bucket. A hole approximately 1.5"-2" in diameter is cut in the center of the bottom, this is for the cotton wick. A second hole 1.73" in diameter is cut near the edge of the bottom, this is for the fill tube. A bunch of small holes (about 5/16" in diameter) are drilled randomly around the bottom of this buck to improve drainage and allow air to get to the plant roots. Sidenote: do you really think I drilled a 1.73" hole? I just cut until the tube fit. FillPipe by merriwether, on Flickr The bottom of the fill tube has a large notch cut in it to simplify the system. A precise person could measure (twice) and cut (once) fill tubes to the exact length needed for perfection. Luckily, plants don't need a perfect system in which to grow, so just hack a chunk out of the bottom of the fill tube, stick it through the inner bucket, and whack it off somewhere around the top rim of the inner bucket. MakingOverflowHole by merriwether, on Flickr An overflow hole is drilled in the outer bucket. To keep from flooding the buckets a drain hole is drilled in the outer bucket just below the bottom of the inner bucket. Hopefully you can see how I precisely measured the location for this hole. LookingDownIntoBuckets by merriwether, on Flickr Completed buckets before adding soil. Now you can see all the drain holes, the fill tube and the cotton wick. The wick was made from this really hideous dust ruffle thing that I've always hated. Hopefully this hatred won't affect the plants. FillingBuckets by merriwether, on Flickr Getting ready to fill the buckets. Being lazy, I didn't feel like holding up the wick while adding the soil so I tied it to a stick. This picture is slightly misleading as the wick does end 2"-4" below the top of the soil once the bucket is filled. Ingredients by merriwether, on Flickr Making soil. My soil recipe is based on Square Foot Gardening and is composed of roughly 1/3 cheap topsoil, 1/3 peat moss and 1/3 vermiculite (the stuff in the wheel barrow) mixed together thoroughly. The peat moss helps hold water, the vermiculite keeps the soil loose and aerated, the topsoil gives the plant roots a place to grow. Depending on what I grow, some fertilizer may be added to the particular bucket. FinishedBuckets by merriwether, on Flickr And here we are back at the beginning. It took me about four hours total to make these eight buckets and they have all been planted with different wild edibles except for the one on the end which has chard I picked up on clearance. This is a great way to set up a container garden in a small area, especially in hot, dry locations. Another benefit of these Global Buckets is that you can move them around to optimize their access to sun or to protect them from freezing. Once the plants are growing I'll add either a thick layer of mulch or some secondary plant like nasturtiums to shade the soil which reduces evaporative water loss. Water is added to the system through the fill tube until water flows out the overflow hole. The plants will eventually grow their roots through the holes in the bottom of the bucket directly into the water reservoir. Until then the wick keeps the soil at the perfect level of moistness. I'll update you through the year on how well this system actually works. -Blast
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#213713 - 12/27/10 10:14 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/01/07
Posts: 2432
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Along with duct tape, foil tape, and duct-seal putty the five gallon bucket is one of the staples of hillbilly engineering. You pretty much can't have too many.
Don't forget that lots of building supplies come in five gallon buckets. Paints, sealants, drywall mud, wallpaper glue, concrete additives, etcetera, etcetera. Some of those you don't want in close contact with food but one of the benefits of the shift to low/no-VOC compounds is the general trend is that these materials are becoming far less toxic.
On a large job site a few years ago I was picking up twenty or more buckets a week. And there were plenty more.
Large institutions may have shifted toward large drums, typically 40 or 55 gallon drums, another fine resource, but many have stuck with five gallon units for their cleaning and floor maintenance supplies because they are easier to handle and dispense.
Nice design on the self-watering pot. The one addition I would make would be to line the bottom half of the upper pail with landscape fabric to limit the growth of roots into the lower compartment.
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#213718 - 12/28/10 12:42 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 2463
Loc: Central California
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Nice.
Is there a layer of material for the bottom of the inner bucket to allow root access to water while reducing soil loss into the outer bucket?
Are these strictly for annuals and intended to be refurbished each season / year?
Wouldn't Houston's humidity and heat allow water harvest in summer by solar still to feed into the system?
Overflow water capture system?
Thanks.
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#213722 - 12/28/10 02:00 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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Very nice tutorial, Blast!
I had heard of the Earthboxes but didn't know how they worked.
These buckets look like the ideal way to grow herbs that tend to spread excessively via root runners, like the mints.
They would also be great for growing greens and herbs on a sunny deck or patio near the kitchen door for quick and easy access: lettuces, basil, borage, fenugreek, chervil, chives, cilantro, coriander, dill, fennel, ginger, lemon balm, lemon verbena, lovage, marjoram, oregano, parsley, rosemary, sage, summer and winter savories, tarragon and thyme. Carefully chosen, two or three could be planted in each bucket.
Sue
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#213740 - 12/28/10 02:21 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 07/19/07
Posts: 266
Loc: New York
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Very cool project, Blast.
Do you need to use food grade buckets? Would toxins from non-food-grade buckets, or buckets that previously held chemicals leach into whatever foodstuffs you were growing?
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#213747 - 12/28/10 04:21 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/26/06
Posts: 77
Loc: Cochise Co., AZ
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Do you use a small, medium, or large henweigh?
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#213759 - 12/28/10 06:55 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Todd W]
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INTERCEPTOR
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
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What about plastic / material on top?
Background info on Todd's Question: Traditional Earth Boxes/Global Buckets do have a layer of black plastic sheeting over the top of the soil to restrict evaporative loss of water from the soil. Holes are cut in this plastic for planting seedlings of whatever you will be growing. I currently do not have plastic over the soil as I'm growing stuff straight from seeds which doesn't work well with a black plastic sheet over the top. I may put clear plastic covers over the tops to get a greenhouse effect if the weather stays cool. I'm growing wild edible plants (aka weeds) in these buckets and and they don't need quite the level of babying as regular plants. -Blast
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#213760 - 12/28/10 06:56 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Art_in_FL]
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INTERCEPTOR
Carpal Tunnel
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Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
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The one addition I would make would be to line the bottom half of the upper pail with landscape fabric to limit the growth of roots into the lower compartment. It is my understanding that having the roots grow into the water is a good thing. Time will tell. -Blast
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#213761 - 12/28/10 07:03 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: dweste]
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INTERCEPTOR
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
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Nice. Are these strictly for annuals and intended to be refurbished each season / year?
Wouldn't Houston's humidity and heat allow water harvest in summer by solar still to feed into the system?
Overflow water capture system?
These can be used for either annuals or perennials. Several of the plants I'll be growing have a two-year lifespan so they won't be harvested until 2012...assuming the world hasn't ended. ![shocked shocked](/images/graemlins/default/shocked.gif) I'm not sure how one would set up a solar still that would catch evaporating water but not overheat the plants. If you have some ideas I'd love to hear them. As for capturing the overflow water, that's not much of an issue. The overflow hole is right in front where I can see it so I stop adding water at the first sight of water trickling out of the hole. Sidenote: I placed the overflow holes on the ugliest side of the buckets thinking they would be turned towards the raised bed behind the buckets, leaving the nice, pristine white side of the buckets in view. Then I realized I couldn't tell when the buckets were full of water, so now I'm looking at the ugly side. ![blush blush](/images/graemlins/default/blush.gif) -Blast
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#213763 - 12/28/10 07:06 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Jesselp]
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INTERCEPTOR
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
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Do you need to use food grade buckets? Would toxins from non-food-grade buckets, or buckets that previously held chemicals leach into whatever foodstuffs you were growing?
Yes, luckily food for eateries comes in food-grade buckets. ![grin grin](/images/graemlins/default/grin.gif) That being said, I don't have much fear of chemicals being leached out of the buckets or being absorbed by the plants. -Blast
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#213765 - 12/28/10 07:12 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Bill_Mead]
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INTERCEPTOR
Carpal Tunnel
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I have been looking to do something like this also but have had difficulty finding vermiculite locally. I will have to get back on task for spring.
BTW I have a nice batch of canna lilies I have grown from seeds thanks to another one of your posts. Any chemicals I order at work arrive sealed in a jar which is sealed in a bag filled with vermiculite, which itself is sealed in a can filled with vermiculite which is sealed in another bag filled with vermiculite which is sealed in a box filled with vermiculite. ![laugh laugh](/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) I don't have any idea where non-chemists can get loads of vermiculite. Pearlite can be used, but it's not very cheap, either. I wonder if coarsely-ground charcoal would work? Enjoy the canna lilies. Mashed with butter and garlic, people will rave about your potatoes. ![wink wink](/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) -Blast
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#213793 - 12/29/10 01:28 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Vermiculite has become a lot harder to find, and less desirable generally, because some of it was shown to include asbestos. The Libby mine in Montana was shown to contain asbestos, something Libby was well aware of. The production of the Libby mine was widely marketed for a variety of uses and a large proportion of the vermiculite marketed in the US sold before the mid-90s is assumed to be contaminated. http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/pubs/verm.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VermiculiteLater mining has undertaken a testing program to make sure the vermiculite is free of asbestos. It has to be noted that these programs are largely operated by the companies doing the mining. The effectiveness of the testing is being reviewed. The bottom line is vermiculite has lost market share as people have shifted to alternatives. The alternative offered, even as it is admitted to have different physical quality, is Pearlite.
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#213806 - 12/29/10 04:12 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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Perlite was pretty cheap when I bought it in a large bag from a building materials place, far, FAR cheaper than a nursery. The bag was about 36" tall x 18" wide or so. I use it for concrete and planting. At some places, it comes in different sizes.
Check and see if you have a Mutual Materials around you. They're mainly a wholesaler, but the one here has absolutely no problem selling retail.
Sue
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#213821 - 12/29/10 01:08 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Old Hand
Registered: 01/28/10
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This a great idea. I'm going to try several of these with tomato plants on the south side of the house when (if?) the glacier recedes from my yard this spring.
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#213843 - 12/29/10 05:12 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
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Loc: NW NJ
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I've bought 4 cubic foot bags of it at my local Agway, for those of you in the northeast: http://www.agway.com/store_locator.htmlTry to find it locally at all costs, the shipping is a killer because it is so bulky (yet light).
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#213898 - 12/30/10 03:17 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Registered: 09/10/08
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There is some info at Vermiculite.COM--a guide on how and where to purchase vermiculite in the United States and the world., basically, pool suppliers are supposed to carry it
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#214064 - 01/01/11 06:15 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Journeyman
Registered: 09/17/10
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Loc: N.E. Alabama
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Blast, I'm amazed that not a soul on this forum inquired about #7. ![whistle whistle](/images/graemlins/default/whistle.gif)
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#214078 - 01/01/11 07:03 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 09/09/06
Posts: 323
Loc: Iowa
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ok - I'll bite.
Whats a henweigh ??
-Eric
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#214083 - 01/01/11 07:38 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Eric]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 08/15/03
Posts: 208
Loc: NE Ohio
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I love the idea, really ingenious. One thing I think this might be good for is really rampant plants that are tough to contain - I'm thinking of mint, which I hesitate to plant in my garden because of how I've seen it take over a patch at my mom's house.
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#214084 - 01/01/11 07:43 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Eric]
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Veteran
Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
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ok - I'll bite.
Whats a henweigh ??
-Eric
About 5 lbs
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#214099 - 01/02/11 01:25 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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I thought it might be a chicken joke, and decided not to bite.
Of course, there was also the chance that it was a legitimate term and I would look like an idiot.
Sue
Sue
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#214100 - 01/02/11 01:48 AM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
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Enthusiast
Registered: 09/09/06
Posts: 323
Loc: Iowa
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ok - I'll bite.
Whats a henweigh ??
-Eric
About 5 lbs Thank you...thank you...K2 will be here all week. Try the chicken and be sure to tip your waitress. OK, sure - the guy with the punch line and the light weight bird gets to be the headliner. Blast should get some uhm... recognition? .... for dusting off that really really old setup. I will grant that I did walk into that one, knowing what the fallout would be because someone had to take one for the team. Of course I'd always heard the punchline as about 6-7 pounds. Oh well, some of us must feed our chickens better than others. - Eric
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#221193 - 04/08/11 07:56 PM
Re: Self-watering 5-gallon growing containers
[Re: Blast]
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Journeyman
Registered: 03/04/06
Posts: 74
Loc: Texas
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If you wanted to grow tomatoes in the buckets you could make a circle of reinforcing wire to fit the bucket before adding the soil. The soil would hold the wire in place.
David Enoch
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