Thanks guys

We have the MSR and all other kinds of small stoves but I haven't given them much thought because of the kind of use I need them for.

If I was camping, I would just depend on my brother who brings the kitchen sink ( almost literally LOL ). Last time we camped, he brought THREE barbeque setups AND a dual stove with 25 pound propane canister. Yup, he fills the Suburban in such a way I have to e-mail GMC to beef up their suspension. LOL

Anyways. That is family camping in our own cars. But when we travel to other cities, I like to have two setups to choose from. One is this refillable butane stove, and the other is an electric kettle plus an iron. I need help finding an iron that allows you to put it upside down , and use the handle as a base. You can then use it for cooking noodles or something. I have seen it once but don't remember where.