#212796 - 12/10/10 12:59 PM
Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
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Registered: 10/15/09
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I am going to go on a Just for Fun trip into a small patch of woods, 2 miles from my friends house, and I am packing extra fire-starting methods. I don't know what else to include, I have some stuff but I want to know your regular, extravagant, and your last chance. I want any method which I can carry, no Bow and Drill, but there is plenty of dry wood around, i could make one. I will be prepared, so worry, but I should be alright. I am definately bringing Jello now!
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#212799 - 12/10/10 01:50 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: sybert777]
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Stranger
Registered: 12/06/10
Posts: 20
Loc: Virginia
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I usually bring a standard bic lighter.
To supplement it, I use dryer lint and hand sanitizer as starter materials.
As I backup I have a Swedish Fire Steel.
Depending on how big I want the fire I'll select from the following tools to gather wood: Pocket Knife, Sabercut Saw, Hatchet, Boy's Axe.
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#212801 - 12/10/10 02:20 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: sybert777]
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Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 41
Loc: Colorado
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#212802 - 12/10/10 03:11 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: njs]
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Old Hand
Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
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I don't get the obsession with having 10 or 20 different ways to start a fire.
A butane lighter, some lint or cotton, a fire steel, and some PJ is plenty. The lighter gets the nod unless for some reason it don't work. Just the easiest.
It's not like you are going to go "live off the land" for the rest of your life. At worst you will need to start fires for a survival situation for a few days.
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#212810 - 12/10/10 05:13 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: sybert777]
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Journeyman
Registered: 08/21/03
Posts: 60
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My Fire Kit:
REI Storm Matches Weather/Water Proof Matches Match Striker (ie emery paper strip) Coughlans Tinder Cubes Magnesium Flint Striker Sparklite Tinder Stick(s)
Covers emergencies. If you need supplies to start camp and cook fires on a regular basis, add additional quantities.
The magnesium and sparklite are more for emergency use than just firestarting materials.
Note, I also carry a lighter as EDC.
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#212811 - 12/10/10 05:35 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: sybert777]
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Geezer in Chief
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
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This a great opportunity for you to try as many of the various methods of fire starting that are mentioned in the cited threads. Nothing is as useful as experience! Just remember that when you absolutely, positively must have a fire, conditions will be such that it most likely will be somewhat difficult. All the more reason to get some experience
Fire building is a very useful skill, but I suspect you may conclude, as many of us have, that carrying a lightweight gas canister or alcohol stove is well worth the effort. You might include something like the Cat stove to compare with the traditional campfire in terms of meal preparation times, ease of ignition etc....
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#212822 - 12/10/10 09:13 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: sybert777]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC
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I like the rule of three for firestarting, especially because it's so easy to cover those bases: lighter, REI waterproof matches, firesteelTender: vaselined cotton balls, fine steel wool, magnesium, fatwood.I'll never be without a firesteel again, unless I lose my keys. Just added this firesteel tube to my key ring. It's very light. http://firesteel.com/products/FireSteel-Tube-Pup.htmlWhile it's good to search the website for previous discussions, ETS is not a terribly busy forum so redundant threads doesn't strike me as a problem. Especially not on a subject that is so fundamental to being equipped to survive. I am obsessed with not freezing. BTW, thanks for posting those links of previous threads, I'm going to check them out!
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#212827 - 12/10/10 09:52 PM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: sybert777]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/01/10
Posts: 1629
Loc: Northern California
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I carry mini Bics and ferro rods of various sizes. For tinder, I carry cotton balls, petroleum jelly, Burt's Bees lip balm, bike inner tube, and magnesium rods. I always have at least one candle in my car, and I carry a candle on me sometimes. If you pause to think about the benefits candle, carrying a candle is well worth the trouble.
I plan for my fire starter kit to start a fire in a freezing, wet environment. I need the tool itself to be able to get wet and still work. The ferro rods have passed this test. The mini Bics work again after they dry off. I don't carry matches of any kind because I don't trust them for my needs.
Regarding the rule of three, I don't view that rule as meaning three different types of methods. I view the rule as meaning 3 independent fire starters. I'd prefer 2 Bics and 1 ferro rod, rather than 1 Bic, 1 ferro rod, and 1 match set. I don't want matches at all. I know there are some famous outdoors men who carry matches, and that's good for them.
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#212833 - 12/11/10 12:43 AM
Re: Composing a fire kit, and I need help!
[Re: ireckon]
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Geezer in Chief
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
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ireckon, we knew you were matchless!
Matches work fine, as long as you have a good, bombproof container. In that mode, they have come through for me for years. Something as simple as a 35mm film container can serve, although the K&M match container is far better. Exotac also makes a fairly expensive container that looks pretty good - I have no personal experience with it. For emergency situations, matches on steroids (REI Stormproofs or Lifeboat matches) are the way to go, because the standard kitchen matches are not made to the standard common some years ago.
Actually, I have been using a butane lighter as my first line gadget for lighting fires and stoves and I really can't recall when I had to go to another source of ignition. It has been at least a decade ago.
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