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| #252713 - 11/02/12 06:52 PM  Re: Winter Car Kits (storing water)
[Re: Meadowlark] |  
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   Registered:  05/05/07
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 Loc:  Ontario, Canada
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 I've often wondered about storing water in one's car when it's below freezing. I usually take out the water bottles for a couple of months each winter (unless heading out for an extended trip in the mountains) due to concerns that they will eventually burst/crack with the temperature extremes, but I really really don't like the idea of being without some extra water, even in town. A couple winters ago temps dipped below -19F/-28C for a few days; and it can get colder than that some years.
 
 
Don't fill them all the up, leave room for expansion and contraction. If you're got a way to melt snow for drinking water, you could use to to thaw a frozen bottle. I also bring a fresh 2L nalgene with me every morning. |  
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| #252717 - 11/02/12 07:18 PM  Re: Winter Car Kits
[Re: Frisket] |  
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 Loc:  Ontario, Canada
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2012 Update
 Great thread! I have to make room for a baby stroller in the back of my Jeep, so all of this needs to be kept in a large rubbermaid bin in the back, along with the glove box, console and under the seats. Last year I was driving a little Honda Civic and had a similar load but with much more in terms of winter clothes. (It's still early in the season. I'll add snow pants for everyone when we go on road trips.)
 
 From memory:
 
 EDC backpack
 Personal BOB
 My son's daypack/bob
 FAK
 
 In rubbermaid bin in rear/under seats/in glove box/console:
 
 Spare Clothes:
 blaze orange thinsulate hat
 reflective vest
 extra fleece jackets
 bright yellow rain slicker
 extra insulated boots
 thinsulte tappers hats
 wool or thinsulate mittens
 insulated mechanic's gloves
 
 Shelter:
 wool blanket(s)
 winter sleeping bag (s)
 thermarest
 tarp
 paracord
 small 2 man tent
 
 Tools:
 emergency only cel phone
 extra sunglasses
 cel phone chargers (mine, hubby's and emerg phone's)
 tool kit (ratchet set, screw drivers, wrenches, etc.)
 LED Flashlights (1 X DD, 1 x AAA, lighter outlet plug-in)
 extra batteries
 multi-tool
 bic
 snap lights
 pens
 notebook
 owner's manual for Jeep
 jumper cables
 tire iron
 extra fuses
 oil pressure gauge
 air compressor
 tow rope
 thule straps
 large coffee can
 hobo stove
 esbit tabs
 fatwood
 tea lights
 newspaper
 bic
 strike anywhere matches
 cotton balls
 chem hand warmers
 plastic garbage bags
 TP
 shop towels
 rags
 road flares
 shovel
 ax
 folding saw
 ice scraper
 kitty litter or road salt
 2 golf umbrellas
 fire extinguisher
 road maps
 inflated (to pressure) spare tire
 
 Fluids:
 water (I think there's a total of 10l out there at the moment)
 drinks in bobs (coffee, hot chocolate, koolaid, etc.)
 washer fluid
 transmission fluid
 oil
 
 Extra food:
 trail mix
 cliff bars
 peanut m&ms
 food in edc and bob (bars, MH, etc.)
 
 The space between my ears:
 Check and re-check the weather reports for your entire journey
 file trip plans with responsible people
 stick to the plan
 top up all fluids before trips
 keep gas tank above 1/2 full
 change oil, brakes, etc. regularly
 don't test the 4WD unneccessarily
 dress ro survive not to arrive
 drive defensively
 snow tires
 keep on eye on the rubber
 
 
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| #252720 - 11/02/12 07:49 PM  Re: Winter Car Kits
[Re: Dagny] |  
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Going through camping gear this weekend I came upon a roll of Reflectix insulation that I'd cut in pieces to fit in the rear and side windows of my Honda Element.  That is a popular and cheap method for warmth and privacy on the Element forum among those of us who have slept in our Elements on camping trips.  The pieces roll up quite compactly and have been durable.  The pieces, cut with scissors (not with precision) fit neatly in the windows, with light pressure. A 24" by 25' roll took care of my rear and side windows with about half the roll left over (which I've used to envelop my cooler on hot days).  For the windshield I use the sunshield that I carry all the time. Am thinking that for winter road trips, especially with snow in the forecast, it would be wise to throw the Reflectix in the car.  It cuts down markedly on drafts.  Can't see out of it but I've always left the driver and passenger doors uncovered (and cracked for air) and the Reflectix still makes a notable difference in the rear.  $23http://www.homedepot.com/Reflectix/h_d1/...catalogId=10053 Anyone else have experience with using Reflectix on camping trips? That's it!! (Sorry. I have read the entire thread before asking. I should have known it would come up.) Thanks Dagny! |  
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| #253007 - 11/07/12 04:17 PM  Re: Winter Car Kits (blankets)
[Re: Meadowlark] |  
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 Registered:  05/23/08
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That's a super nice shovel, ChaosMagnet! Teslinhiker -- Good tip. Thanks.   Here's another question: What sort of blanket(s)  do you all keep in your car kit?  I currently have an inexpensive polyester fleece number, but always wonder if a wool one would be better. Also, do you think the color could be helpful? (Darker = warmer, bright yellow/orange = better visibility) Any blanket is better than none, but IMHO wool is best. Naturally non flamable, warm if wet or damp, and does not attract or retain odours unlike synthetics. I dont think that colour is important. Dark colors wont normaly be any warmer than light colours, the only exception being outdoors in cold but sunny conditions when dark colours would absorb a bit of radiant heat. Orange or red are visable in most conditions, and dark colors show well against snow, but likely use is inside inside a vehicle or other shelter, not in the open.
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| #253008 - 11/07/12 04:24 PM  Re: Winter Car Kits (blankets)
[Re: Meadowlark] |  
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 Registered:  05/23/08
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*nod to the bad back issue*
 
 
 Have any of you who pack wool blankets have any suggestions for keeping them clean/pest free? I'm thinking of putting it in a heavy plastic bag and duct taping it, but wonder if there are better options...
 
 
 
Place in a breathable bag of canves or similar, and laundering once a year seems simple. |  
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| #270971 - 07/23/14 04:28 PM  Re: Winter Car Kits
[Re: Frisket] |  
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 Registered:  04/19/12
 Posts: 170
 Loc:  Iowa
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I was just going through my car kit, and re-discovered some old Coghlan's hand warmers I had stashed in a tub.   These were about 4 years old now, and I know these things have a limited shelf life.
 I took them out, and they felt a little "stiff", so I opened one up to test it out..  but I guess they were just packed really tightly.
 
 I took it out, shook it up, felt to see if there were any "clumps", and sure enough, I could feel it start to warm right up.
 
 Guess I'll throw them into my backpack and get them used up the next time I'm in a situation that I need them.   But I was rather impressed with the lifespan of these.
 
 Other's were good for maybe a year...
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