Thanks! I've had hardtack and finally realised Pilot bread was the same stuff. Erbswurst?I had some when I was a very little boy ( in a galaxy far,far away and a long time ago.) part of the american experience is being able to draw on so many ethnic traditions. In my case kosher mexican food to celebrate Guy Falkes Day <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> It's hard to beat a modern MRE for convenience,but our peoples worldwide came up with fascinating and tasty ( O.K. my great grandmother's friesen sauerkraut was something else) foods for the tough times.