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#211401 - 11/16/10 06:03 AM Re: Knife Laws [Re: Ms_V_Nox]
Ms_V_Nox Offline
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Registered: 11/05/08
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Thank you very much everybody for your great replies.... I will check it all out... It's a lot to take in...

I am so sorry that it took me this long to get back to the thread, life kind of took over...

I am very appreciative...


Ms. Nox

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#211413 - 11/16/10 01:47 PM Re: Knife Laws [Re: Joseph13]
hikermor Offline
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Loc: southern Cal
V Nox, the law library at the County Government Center is very accommodating and helpful. Just don't bring a knife within, it is part of the Hall of Justice, which has "no weapons"signs and metal detectors.

I have carried any number of folders in my pockets ("concealed." as it were) and occasionally a fixed blade on my belt with no hassles from the constabulary. This includes working at the Gov't Center. My boss agreed that my Wave was a tool, not a weapon.


Edited by hikermor (11/16/10 07:30 PM)
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#211491 - 11/18/10 01:42 AM Re: Knife Laws [Re: hikermor]
Ms_V_Nox Offline
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Registered: 11/05/08
Posts: 5
Originally Posted By: hikermor
V Nox, the law library at the County Government Center is very accommodating and helpful. Just don't bring a knife within, it is part of the Hall of Justice, which has "no weapons"signs and metal detectors.

I have carried any number of folders in my pockets ("concealed." as it were) and occasionally a fixed blade on my belt with no hassles from the constabulary. This includes working at the Gov't Center. My boss agreed that my Wave was a tool, not a weapon.


Yeah, I wonder how many bad actors carry Waves... Heh heh...

Thank you!

Ms. Nox

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#212012 - 11/28/10 12:30 PM Re: Knife Laws [Re: Ms_V_Nox]
Ramsey Offline
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Registered: 01/21/10
Posts: 5
Loc: Northern CA
Read up on the Penal Code first and foremost.

Absolutely illegal in CA PC 12020(a)(1): any ballistic knife, belt buckle knife, lipstick case knife, cane knife, air gauge knife and pen knife.

PC 653k: cannot carry any "switchblade" knife with a blade longer than two inches. "Switchblade" covers everything from spring loaded to being able to open it with a flick of your wrist.

PC 12020 also says you cannot carry concealed a dirk or dagger.

Knives have even become common in CA and most of us coppers don't bat an eyelash when a law-abiding citizen is carrying one. We mostly use these laws to get those not so law-abiding citizens. There are however always exceptions so CYA.

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#212025 - 11/28/10 07:56 PM Re: Knife Laws [Re: Ramsey]
ireckon Offline
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Registered: 04/01/10
Posts: 1629
Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Ramsey
"Switchblade" covers everything from spring loaded to being able to open it with a flick of your wrist.


OK, be careful with that underlined part. Assisted folders are generally legal to carry concealed in California. Also, almost all folders can be opened with a "flip of the wrist" after you get the blade out a little bit. To be precise, a folder is illegal if the only thing it takes is a flip of the wrist to open it (e.g., a butterfly knife). There is a difference. All the assisted folders that I've seen for sale at Walmart and Big5 may be carried concealed legally.

Each person should read the Penal Code on their own and/or discuss the Code with a lawyer. Also, visit Calguns.net.
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#221225 - 04/09/11 07:16 AM Re: Knife Laws [Re: Ms_V_Nox]
Ms_V_Nox Offline
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Registered: 11/05/08
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Thank you again for your replies... They are very much appreciated...

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#221250 - 04/09/11 08:21 PM Re: Knife Laws [Re: Ms_V_Nox]
Pete Offline
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Registered: 02/20/09
Posts: 1372
California is a confusing place for people who want to carry a knife. I think that reader dweste summarized it best when he said "just don't flaunt it".

We have found that many peace officers in CA don't have a really clear idea of the specific knife laws themselves, and so their enforcement actions tend to be based on individual choices/bias. Bottom line is ... don't carry a knife around town, unless it has a really small blade. And definitely not in sensitive locations like schools and public buildings.

I always wear my knife so that the clip is easily visible on the outside of a pocket - if it is carried in my pocket.

Ms Nox - about your specific question. First, take a look at the Cold Steel Web site (www.coldsteel.com) because I think they have an assisted-opening knife that they sell. And you can be pretty sure it's CA-legal, in the sense that the mechanism doesn't violate CA knife laws. Cold Steel is a CA company. BUT also remember what I said above ... regardless of what the law says in black and white, if a police officer does not "like" the design of the knife being carried, you are likely to get some kind of response (warning, confiscation or arrest). In general, you can accomplish anything you need to do with a knife using either a fixed-blade knife or a folding knife. In my opinion, assisted opening knives are not necessary for survival or defense (they are interesting, but not essential).

I thought the arrest of the 15-year old for carrying a hunting knife in lion country was absolutely ridiculous. But the greater truth is that it would be hard to defend against a hungry mountain lion using just a knife with a fairly short (4 to 6 inch) blade. Not impossible, but hard for a teenager to do. Still, if that kid was mine i would give him a big congratulations for having some decent common sense, and I'd take him out to dinner. At least he thought about protecting his younger siblings.

Pete #2


Edited by Pete (04/09/11 08:32 PM)

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#221251 - 04/09/11 09:03 PM Re: Knife Laws [Re: dweste]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078

Quote:
"15-YEAR-OLD FACES FELONY ARRAIGNMENT SEPT. 28 FOR CARRYING A HUNTING KNIFE WHILE JOGGING WITH 2 YOUNGER CHILDREN IN RURAL AREA WHERE KIDS WERE STALKED BY MOUNTAIN LION"


Thats nuts. I remember when I was 14 or 15 and was running around the local neighborhood dressed in camouflage carrying a Bren Gun. shocked

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