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#21099 - 11/03/03 11:04 PM 24 hour ration packs
mick Offline
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Registered: 09/27/02
Posts: 134
Loc: England west yorkshire
I know it's not really a survival question but what food supplies does everyone carry when out hill walking or performing an equally arduous sport/activity.

I personally use the british 24 hour ration packs. These provide roughly 4000 - 5000 caleries per day (yes these are the ones shown on that sas survival secrets program)

The ones I use are the cold climate ones that contain

1 pack of porridge (the instant oats mix)
1 main breakfast meal
1 main meal
1 dessert
soup

2 packs of biscuits
1 small tin of spread
2 bars of chocolate
1 pack of boiled sweets
1 oat meal block

plus tea, coffe, stock drink, hot chocolate, sugar and whitner.

for anyone whoes intrested heres a link to them.

http://www.stringtownsupplies.co.uk/pd14...;categoryId=104

for emergency rations I carry mint cake, choclate, biscuits and an extra dessert.

What does everyone else use?

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#21100 - 11/03/03 11:38 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
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Hi Mick,
This type of post has been here before so Ill give you the link. But be careful it is addictive, esspecially the links that follow. I already got waay of course when I looked at it.

http://www.equipped.org/ubbthreads/showf...=true#Post11821

Reinhardt

PS soz guys, I should read more into the post about shortening URLs but | cant remember right now....

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#21101 - 11/03/03 11:56 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
mick Offline
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Registered: 09/27/02
Posts: 134
Loc: England west yorkshire
thanks for the link.
so what do you actually have now after a HARD days walking/climbing/ other outdoors activity. sorry if i seem stupid/baffled, but i was wondering what you ate. I mean do you use an onsite camp shop(pesonally i don't like the large sites with everyone on them the tend to get quite busy, i prefer
the smaller sites) or do you carry some normal items such as a bag of rice and extras and see what you can come up with. what emergency rations do you carry. I'm not being critical I'm just curious

Heres my exact food/ cooking list for a week end away
2 24 hr ration packs
hexamine stove with 2 pack of fuel
emergency rations
1 mess tin (I stuff the main meals and dessert in here whilst traveling)
1 metal brewing mug
1 litre flask (for on hills, i'm a beliver that you should crry a hot drink whilst outdoors for both comfort and neseicity reasons)

ps


Edited by mick (11/04/03 12:05 AM)

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#21102 - 11/04/03 01:10 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Mick, Do the Brit ration packs come with chemical heating units,or is a stove neccessary? My rucksack always has a minimum of 2 MRE main meals and heaters, 1/2lb beef jerky, 1lb homemade fruitcake, 1 block of chinese black tea,1/2lb of chocolate,1/2lb dehydrated fruit,1/2lb of oatmeal, 35mm film canisters of sea salt and pepper. I 've been trying to locate Knorr's Erbswurst, a concentrated split pea and bacon soup mentioned in many older adventure and camping texts and Pilot bread, a wheat cracker. Trying out old methods and supplies can give insights for the new.

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#21103 - 11/04/03 02:51 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
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Chris, this site http://www.ostfront.com/german_repro.html has erbswurst in WWII type packaging. It is edible. I think Mountain House sells pilot bread. I think the original stuff was essentially hardtack which is easy enough to make at home.

Ed

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#21104 - 11/04/03 02:52 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
"Bible Bars" are in my pockets all the time. Lovely snack, full of good stuff and really keeps the energy up.
I get 'em at the health food store.
Also throw a few candy mints in there too. That's about all you need, besides you water supply, of course.


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#21105 - 11/04/03 03:53 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
11BINF Offline
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Registered: 10/05/03
Posts: 115
Loc: phx. az. u.s.a
chris also try this ww1/ww2 german supplier to reenactors der truppensattler at wwwtruppensattler.de/-2k. the last time i checked he had that style of pea soup and also canned german army bread. also try the richmoor and mountainhouse links for pilot bread its sold in #10 cans at a fare price ...lol... vince g..

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#21106 - 11/09/03 11:46 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
stargazer Offline
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Registered: 03/05/02
Posts: 224
Loc: Idaho, USA
Mick: Those Brit 24 hour packs look like the Forest Services rations for their firefighters. Some say they are K-Rations (US), but I have only heard them called emergency rations.

Chris K: I thought I was the only one who carried fruit cake in a hiking ruck along with chocolate. Here is a recipe for Pilot Bread AKA Hard tack.

Recipe Ingredients
1 1/2 Cups milk
4 Cups flour
4 Tablespoons butter
3 Teaspoons brown sugar
1 1/2 Teaspoons salt
Serves: 12

Mix the ingredients into a dough and roll out to a thickness of about 1/2 inch. Cut into squares. Prick the squares with a fork or knife. Place them on a lightly greased baking pan and bake at 400 degrees F for 20 to 30 minutes, until golden brown. Yield: 24 2 x 2-inch bars.

Calories: 101
Carbohydrates: 15.9
Cholesterol: 2.8
Dietary Fiber : .5
Fiber: .6
Protein: 2.5
Saturated Fat: 1.2
Sodium: 141
Total Fat: 2.8


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#21107 - 11/10/03 01:38 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Thanks! I've had hardtack and finally realised Pilot bread was the same stuff. Erbswurst?I had some when I was a very little boy ( in a galaxy far,far away and a long time ago.) part of the american experience is being able to draw on so many ethnic traditions. In my case kosher mexican food to celebrate Guy Falkes Day <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> It's hard to beat a modern MRE for convenience,but our peoples worldwide came up with fascinating and tasty ( O.K. my great grandmother's friesen sauerkraut was something else) foods for the tough times.

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#21108 - 11/10/03 09:29 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
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Registered: 09/07/01
Posts: 181
Loc: Dardanelles
Speaking of traditional food:

I generally prefer to have canned food with me and "sucuk (sujuk)"



some sort of bacon which can be eaten both raw or cooked. It has good deal of fat and meat in it with some spices. It lasts a long while.

I also like to have canned beans and canned tuna fish. All these can be eaten without needing to built a fire and even when you are moving.

For bread we have some sort of a roll type bread like the mexican ones. They last for long and do not take much space to keep.

Another thing is Bulgur. Bulgur is a quick-cooking form of whole wheat that has been cleaned, parboiled, dried, ground into particles and sifted into distinct sizes.It is not cracked wheat. You can use it instead of rice and it has a higher nutritional value.

Another favorite of mine is instant tomato soup mixed with "tarhana".Tarhana is made of a mixture of salt, wheat flour,low fat yogurt, skim milk powder, pepper and tomato paste, vegetable oil, red pepper powder, yeast. Than it is dried and ground. It lasts a very long while.

I also always have bitter chocolate with me. Lasts very long.

Well I come from migrant ancestors <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Our kitchen has many practical food to carry with you on the field.

Spending some time with locals and villagers on the country side I have changed much of my food carry. I have tried MRE and British rations and for me the taste is not very good. And I also think they are heavy. Besides when I eat whole that lot I need to spend a lot of time behind the bushes <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Burak

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#21109 - 11/10/03 01:51 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
Nomad Offline
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Registered: 05/04/02
Posts: 493
Loc: Just wandering around.
All of this reminds me that I am looking for dextrose tablets. Many years ago they were common. Individually wrapped 1x1x1/4" tablets. They have a slight orange flavor.

I still have one or two and have not found anything that quickly remedies that shakey, gonna crash any minute now, feeling when I am over-stressed. Instant energy, but of course it does not last like a good meal. However I think they have saved me many times as I find I am able to continue my task without the danger associated with the "shakies".

Probably not the best thing health wise, but they sure work. Anybody know where I can get them?
_________________________
...........From Nomad.........Been "on the road" since '97

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#21110 - 11/10/03 04:04 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Try a pharmacy; many carry these tablets in the diabetic supply section of the store. Pete

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#21111 - 11/10/03 06:09 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
What, no Baklava <img src="images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />? I've enjoyed bulgar and the many 'flat breads' from the middle east. If I could start an international fast food chain reflecting the international community here the clown would be in big trouble <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#21112 - 11/11/03 09:27 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
mick Offline
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Registered: 09/27/02
Posts: 134
Loc: England west yorkshire
alright chris.
you need a stove to heat up the meals.
on the plus side, instead of making a mess out of you mess tin, you boil you water to make a brew, while you cook you meal. you remove it from the outer pack but leave it in the inner pack or if you choose you can reheat it normally or just eat it cold. the meals are called boil in the bag

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#21113 - 11/14/03 03:03 AM Re: 24 hour ration packs
11BINF Offline
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Registered: 10/05/03
Posts: 115
Loc: phx. az. u.s.a
chris; found another source for your erbswurst. these guys supply ww2 type rations to reenactors . its found in thier pre ww1/ww1 german ration section along with alot of neat info on rations of that period. contact at.17division.tripod.com/knackersquadiesquartermastersection/index.html.. lol vince

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#21114 - 11/14/03 12:10 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
Anonymous
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linky no worky

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#21115 - 12/18/03 05:44 PM Boiled Sweets
Anonymous
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Whats a Boiled Sweet ???

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#21116 - 12/18/03 05:55 PM Re: Boiled Sweets
Anonymous
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Boiled sweets = hard candy such as peppermint swirls.

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#21117 - 12/28/03 07:39 PM Re: 24 hour ration packs
Anonymous
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Here's a link to their homepage:
http://17thdivision.tripod.com/

Info on the Knorr erbstwurst here:
http://17thdivision.tripod.com/rationsoftheageofempire/id2.html


Edited by RokJok (12/28/03 07:52 PM)

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