#208040 - 09/15/10 04:16 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: dougwalkabout]
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Regarding the dealextreme compasses: read the user reviews. Not good. For $2.60 I wouldn't expect much. This is more an exercise than a true survival kit. Having a compass should always be coupled with direction-finding without one.
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#208043 - 09/15/10 06:35 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: Boghog1]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 1680
Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
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I had my students make a sun compass as part of a land navigation lab... and had to make accomodations as teenagers typically didn't wear a watch, and those that did, it was invariably a digital watch not analog. I had them use a drawing compass so they would get a good pivot point, and make the radius as large as possible (3x5 card)...protractor to get good 3,6,9,12 quadrants and try to make good "dot" marks at 15,30,45 minute tics between hours... since we are north of the Tropic of Cancer, the sun is always behind us facing north, so have them hold a thin stick/straw/twig on edge of circle, rotate card so shadow falls across the center pivot point and across the analog hour hand location coinciding to the time from their cell phone or digital watch (to nearest 15min)...north is 1/2 way between the shadow line and 12 o'clock...you might print up a good copy, and attach it to a mirror back with clear packing tape....have them practice/compare with an orienteering compass...
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#208044 - 09/15/10 06:59 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: MDinana]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Maybe a dumb question, but if they're so fiscally challenged, how do they expect to get much outdoor time? I mean, at the very least a school backpack and water bottle is needed for a dayhike. That's exactly why leaders like us have to be resourceful. Scouts is for the kids. Some can't afford it but no kid is at fault for that. Our group has a healthy bank account but we've been established for over twenty years and our leaders are very committed, but not all groups are so fortunate. We've got lots of high risk kids in our area and we try to make it work for them if their parents can just commit to bringing them out. Heck, we'll even pick them up and chaufer them!
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#208045 - 09/15/10 07:05 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Registered: 12/03/09
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Loc: USA
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That's exactly why leaders like us have to be resourceful. Scouts is for the kids. Some can't afford it but no kid is at fault for that. Our group has a healthy bank account but we've been established for over twenty years and our leaders are very committed, but not all groups are so fortunate. We've got lots of high risk kids in our area and we try to make it work for them if their parents can just commit to bringing them out. Heck, we'll even pick them up and chaufer them! One of the Brownie moms in the troop my wife leads called to drop her daughter out of the troop for financial reasons. At my urging, Mom was told that there was grant money to pay for her membership, vest and patches. That "grant money" came out of my wallet. Once her mom got back to work the "grant money" was used up.
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#208047 - 09/15/10 07:49 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: chaosmagnet]
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Registered: 05/05/07
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
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One of the Brownie moms in the troop my wife leads called to drop her daughter out of the troop for financial reasons. At my urging, Mom was told that there was grant money to pay for her membership, vest and patches. That "grant money" came out of my wallet.
Once her mom got back to work the "grant money" was used up.
Now THAT's inspiring, chaos!! Way to go!!
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#208154 - 09/16/10 08:09 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: Boghog1]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 1680
Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
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I was going to suggest an inexpensive provodine-iodine swab as multi use addition to the kit, but primarily a water treatment option... katadyn ClO2 are a little pricey for the troop's budget...but doing a search,the recommendations for dilution run from 2 to 8 drops per liter of water....does anyone have any other or more up to date numbers?...
you might repackage some Aquapure/Potable Aqua tabs...couple of tufts of cotton,small straw, RTV silicone end plugs
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#208156 - 09/16/10 08:19 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: Boghog1]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2851
Loc: La-USA
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4 drops of regular chlorine bleach per each liter of water will kill the nasties.
Chlorox lists a 800 phone number on their labeling and it will provide you with straight answers to your water purification questions.
I have no affiliation with whoever makes Chlorox Bleach.
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#208166 - 09/16/10 10:00 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: Boghog1]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 3164
Loc: Big Sky Country
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Regular chlorine bleach doesn't kill everything does it? I thought you needed chlorine dioxide for that. It seems like bacteria are pretty much killed but that some cysts are not?
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#208368 - 09/20/10 06:19 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: Boghog1]
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Registered: 10/01/09
Posts: 184
Loc: Nebraska
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You could stop by any place you know of that still develops actual rolls of film and ask if you can have some containers. This could be useful for your PJCB and storage of other mini items. For a decent cheapo knife you might try the Wahoo Killer I read about somewhere. $1.99 for a mora-like knife isn't bad.
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#208381 - 09/20/10 11:23 PM
Re: $5 PSK
[Re: T_Co]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 3164
Loc: Big Sky Country
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For a decent cheapo knife you might try the Wahoo Killer I read about somewhere. $1.99 for a mora-like knife isn't bad. That is a shockingly good knife for $2! My dad gave me one of 'em. He got it as a goof, but liked it so much that he got a few more. It takes a very good, although I haven't used it hard enough to say how well it holds it. Still, for the price it's hard to beat- it's a real knife!
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