#206186 - 08/15/10 12:15 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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Just now reading these last ten posts, I got an idea... but is it viable?
Carry a float tube with the air compressor valve, and carry a can of Fix-a-Flat, too. Inflate the float tube with the aerosol, and it helps to strengthen against punctures, too.
Whatcha think?
Sue
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#206193 - 08/15/10 03:05 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: Susan]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 1680
Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
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If you think swimming is an unavoidable risk (you said your dog could survive a couple of days), you might want to think of some redundancy in your inflation device. You might consider 4 or 5 bicycle innertubes tied/duct taped together. They are relatively inexpensive,compact package, easily inflated with a quality small bicycle pump, and if you have a tool to remove the stem of the schrader valve, can be inflated by mouth to a certain extent. I originally thought of them as an improvised water carrier... cut off the valve and fill the tube, sling over shoulder... pretty nasty tasting but and option... regards Les
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#206274 - 08/16/10 05:21 PM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
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While following link in unrelated thread, stumbled across this, which, depending on details and cost, might be worthy of consideration for water crossing. Curious to know the material (durability) used. New project ... 24 oz raft and 2 oz paddles for high mountain lakes As you'll see, this describes a small raft (prototype photo shown). This small company specializes in unique outdoor products designed and manufactured themselves. Maybe an e-mail query would yield more details. Standard disclaimer: no affiliation of any kind nor, for that matter, have I ever purchased any product from them.
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#206285 - 08/16/10 08:19 PM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: xbanker]
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Registered: 04/21/05
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Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
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Received response to query about the raft: moving their shop and "the raft is put on hold indefinitely."
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#206509 - 08/20/10 01:31 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: xbanker]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 2574
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Folding bike schwinn $168 32x31x10 electric scooter ? 220# max Nine miles in 45 mins
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#207509 - 09/08/10 06:51 PM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Old Hand
Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 966
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I have been working on a Get-Home-Bag (GHB) to help me get from my office to home in case of some large-scale emergency. Currently I am living in Washington state and work in downtown Seattle. From downtown Seattle, I am trying to make preparations so that I could hike to my home up north in the town of Lynnwood. To get to/from work, I commute by bus. Via bus, the distance from work to home is roughly 18 miles. According to Google maps, it could be anywhere from 17-20 miles if I have to walk. [..]
In the Seattle, WA area, I consider the most likely large-scale emergency to be an earthquake. [..]
17-20 miles would be a long way for me. [..]
Hi Wolfepack. I live in the Mill Creek/Bothell area and work downtown as well. I've made similar provisions, with the exception that I carry the bag with me as a EDC. I'll take a look at your stuff and make comments a bit later, but here is my kit (photos need slight updating). This is an evolution of several generations of kits, and I change the included clothing slightly depending on the season (summer gear pictured). http://navitsky.org/kit/v6/[Note, the objectives of my kit are *slightly* different than your stated reason. My kit is EDC for one. It is certainly a get-home bag, but basically it is also intended to deal with being stuck at any random place at any random time for a couple of days, bag. In most cases, that isn't a life or death thing, so convenience comes into play.] One comment I will make off the bat is I don't think people appreciate how bad 20 miles could be if it is strewn with debris from an earthquake. I share your opinion that hoofing it is the likely result and it will take a fairly long time to traverse. -john
Edited by JohnN (09/09/10 08:47 AM)
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#207547 - 09/09/10 03:47 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Newbie
Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 46
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Something I thought about after reading these posts. You'll be leaving downtown-ish Seattle overland to Lynnwood. Assume the bridges are all down. That leaves you the Locks and water. There are still lots of people living on boats at East and West Lake Union. I'm sure you'd be able to buy/barter/beg a short trip in a dingy across to Gasworks. That should get you past your most difficult restriction.
Another thing I considered is are you planning on Hwy99? Perhaps shift over to I5 instead. Wider roads, easier access with the ramps to bypass fallen overpasses, fewer structures, trees, etc that can fall onto the road to make the journey harder. Of course, that wouldn't work if there are still cars driving up the road, but if the major bridges are down the freeways will probably be barren. Not as direct, but I think there may be fewer things that would restrict your travel like collapsed buildings, powerlines, trees, etc.
Finally, other food stuffs: Tanka Bars (buffalo and cranberries and they make a spicy one too), very tasty; Trio Bars. If you're just trying to cover the distance you can get Gu cubes or tubes like runners or cyclists use. I've also found single serve peanut butter squeeze packets at local stores (Central Market) that I've added into my pocket food menus.
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#207548 - 09/09/10 03:50 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 46
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Something I thought about after reading these posts. You'll be leaving downtown-ish Seattle overland to Lynnwood. Assume the bridges are all down. That leaves you the Locks and water. There are still lots of people living on boats at East and West Lake Union. I'm sure you'd be able to buy/barter/beg a short trip in a dingy across to Gasworks. That should get you past your most difficult restriction.
Another thing I considered is are you planning on Hwy99? Perhaps shift over to I5 instead. Wider roads, easier access with the ramps to bypass fallen overpasses, fewer structures, trees, etc that can fall onto the road to make the journey harder. Of course, that wouldn't work if there are still cars driving up the road, but if the major bridges are down the freeways will probably be barren. Not as direct, but I think there may be fewer things that would restrict your travel like collapsed buildings, powerlines, trees, etc.
Finally, other food stuffs: Tanka Bars (buffalo and cranberries and they make a spicy one too), very tasty; Trio Bars. If you're just trying to cover the distance you can get Gu cubes or tubes like runners or cyclists use. I've also found single serve peanut butter squeeze packets at local stores (Central Market) that I've added into my pocket food menus.
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#207555 - 09/09/10 04:40 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 06/18/06
Posts: 358
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JohnN, nice rig. Did I miss the food, knife/multitool? What does this set-up weigh? Also, when you said that you carry it as EDC, did you mean in the car or do you actually carry it, on your person, as you commute? Finally, let me suggest the addition of a Katadyn bottle water purifier. In a real disaster, especially after flood /earthquake, you might only have access to some really nasty water.
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#207559 - 09/09/10 05:37 AM
Re: Seattle GHB
[Re: wolfepack]
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Old Hand
Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 966
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I do carry some food, but a very limited amount. Basically maybe a half dozen granola bars. This is a bit of a calculated risk. I consider food somewhat optional within the couple of day period, but I want some food for energy and to keep my metabolism engaged. I do understand that I carry a risk of it affecting my energy level but I also don't have a lot of space to spare.
I carry a multi-tool and knife on my person. See the "body" section. Basically if all else goes to heck, I want my knife with me. I also wear my hiking boots full time which I didn't think to represent in the kit.
Unfortunately, the kit it is something like 35lbs. I've also recently (last half year) added a water bladder to the bag, so it isn't light.
By EDC, I mean I carry it pretty much everywhere I go. I do drive some times, and if so, I'll put it in the car while I drive, but then I haul it with me. Other days I take the train and carry it with me and then the aprox. 15 minute walk each way to and from the office. I used to take the bus and I'd carry it with me there as well.
When I'm in the burbs (where I live), I will leave it in the trunk while I am out and about, but I still try to have it close.
Agreed the water may be nasty. If I need to filter it, I can use a dust mask (like others have suggested coffee filters), my hanky or towel to filter the worst stuff and then hit it with the tablets.
The other thing is in addition to the the water in my bag, I would optimally grab water from my under-desk earthquake kit and throw it in the large Rollypolly, or clip it on to my pack before I left. This would give me several liters of water (I'm more concerned about water than food) and while it may not be enough to get me home, there is a fair chance it will get me past the chaos of the downtown area.
While the kit is a bit of a hybrid -- in addition to survival, it also addresses some convenience issues -- I do try to keep myself from just adding stuff and try to avoid single tasking objects if possible.
I'll think about the water filter tho. But I think it would mean I would have to get rid of something, probably my travel coffee cup (not shown) and I'm somewhat disinclined to do that.
-john
Edited by JohnN (09/09/10 08:51 AM)
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