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#206808 - 08/26/10 04:53 AM Re: I've been thinking again... [Re: Art_in_FL]
Yuccahead Offline
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Registered: 07/24/08
Posts: 199
Loc: W. Texas
Somewhere in the back of my head, I recall that stacks of hay bales, if still wet when bailed, can spontaneously combust. So while the visual is mighty entertaining, I'm not sure I would want to be adding moisture to the center of a large hay bale.

From Wikipedia: "Hay baled before it is fully dry can produce enough heat to catch on fire. Farmers have to be careful about moisture levels to avoid spontaneous combustion, which is a leading cause of haystack fires."
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#206812 - 08/26/10 10:09 AM Re: I've been thinking again... [Re: Susan]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
Originally Posted By: Susan
Some of the bales here are wrapped almost completely in white plastic, but the most useful-looking ones just seem to have a plastic skin around the circumference, but the flat sides are not covered.

Sue


That way they can leave them sit there and not have to transport them to a barn. Its fun to watch those wrappers, funny thing on the back of the tractor picks them up and spins them around while wrapping them up. So you see this big haybale being spun around like the basketball on the showoff players finger.

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#206889 - 08/28/10 11:15 PM Re: I've been thinking again... [Re: Yuccahead]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
'From Wikipedia: "Hay baled before it is fully dry can produce enough heat to catch on fire. Farmers have to be careful about moisture levels to avoid spontaneous combustion, which is a leading cause of haystack fires.'

Hay or compost piles have to be at least 7 feet square to catch fire. Most of those hay fires start in stacked hay in barns.

Sue

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#206899 - 08/29/10 02:31 AM Re: I've been thinking again... [Re: Susan]
Newsman Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 67
Loc: NW Arkansas
Around here, every couple of years, a barn goes up in flames because of spontaneous combustion. It's quite a task to extinguish a smoldering bale. It's hard to get water inside, which is where the fire is. The choice is to either let them burn or unroll them and hose them down.

Regarding using it to dispose of human waste, I'm positive that a round bale can handle far more than a good dose of human waste -- feces or urine. A round bale holds enough carbon to contain the smell and reduce a dead adult dairy cow to nothing more than the large bones in 30 to 40 days. <http://www.uaex.edu/Other_Areas/publications/PDF/FSA-1044.pdf>

Regarding the comment about someone digging into a round bale using a knife, I'm skeptical. The hay is tightly packed and all the stalks or stems are oriented in the same general direction. Cutting, or digging, your way into the heart of a round bale -- IMHO -- would be impossible.

My 21-year-old son laughed when I asked if he'd try to dig in to create a survival shelter. His advice: "Pull off a few layers to use as a blanket, then get on the downwind side." That would be far easier. And MUCH faster.

He also noted that if round bales (or any bales, or haystacks, for that matter) are around, a house or barn is not too far away.

Maybe the person lost in a blizzard dug into a haystack -- far less densely packed than a round bale.

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