#206402 - 08/18/10 03:39 AM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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#206409 - 08/18/10 10:03 AM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Registered: 02/13/09
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Loc: Connecticut, USA
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Let's see........... a di-still-er, a five gallon bucket of sour mash, a crate of mason jars...what could you brew up with that?:) A very long stay in federal prison. -Blast Maybe with prior offenses or a massive operation. Otherwise I doubt if it'd be that long. That said, home distillation of liquor is illegal! Oddly, I don't think making your own race care fuel is illegal everywhere: http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/.Sort of seems like a double standard to me.
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#206415 - 08/18/10 11:44 AM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/18/10
Posts: 76
Loc: Minnesota
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Didn't Opie find one in a shed that made flowers?
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#206419 - 08/18/10 01:34 PM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Registered: 04/09/07
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Blast, Say it isn't so! 
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#206420 - 08/18/10 02:03 PM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Registered: 07/15/02
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Let's see........... a di-still-er, a five gallon bucket of sour mash, a crate of mason jars...what could you brew up with that?:) A very long stay in federal prison. -Blast Maybe with prior offenses or a massive operation. Otherwise I doubt if it'd be that long. That said, home distillation of liquor is illegal! Oddly, I don't think making your own race care fuel is illegal everywhere: http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/.Sort of seems like a double standard to me. Actually, US government regulations on producing your own ethanol fuel are very strict, including minimum limits on the acres of land the still must be located along with distance from other buildings and a slew of other stuff. In the end, you need to have a fairly large farm to meet all their laws. I learned this several years ago when I worked with a company to try and develop solar-powered stills for making fuel ethanol. In the end the regulations made the market for these stills so small that it wasn't worth producing them.  -Blast
Edited by Blast (08/18/10 02:04 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#206435 - 08/18/10 05:39 PM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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Blast, funny you should mention biofuels since I had just run across this article: Scottish scientists develop whiskey biofuel They use the waste products of whiskey production to make the ethanol--whiskey plus fuel. They can have their cake and eat it, too.
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#206448 - 08/18/10 07:48 PM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/01/07
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I would certainly check on the law but as I understand it as long as you keep production under a set limit, I understood it to be anything less than fifteen gallons, but be sure to double check, and your not selling it, your legal.
Of course if you cross that line in amount and for sales the regulations get to be complicated and penalties severe. But even then, as I understand it, if you denature the alcohol by adding various ingredients to make it unsuitable for drinking, you can avoid having to get alcohol tax stamps as you would for liquor.
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#206463 - 08/18/10 11:40 PM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Registered: 07/15/02
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Loc: TX
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I would certainly check on the law but as I understand it as long as you keep production under a set limit, I understood it to be anything less than fifteen gallons, but be sure to double check, and your not selling it, your legal.
Of course if you cross that line in amount and for sales the regulations get to be complicated and penalties severe. But even then, as I understand it, if you denature the alcohol by adding various ingredients to make it unsuitable for drinking, you can avoid having to get alcohol tax stamps as you would for liquor. From the government's website: Spirits
You cannot produce spirits for beverage purposes without paying taxes and without prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant. [See 26 U.S.C. 5601 & 5602 for some of the criminal penalties.] There are numerous requirements that must be met that make it impractical to produce spirits for personal or beverage use. Some of these requirements are paying special tax, filing an extensive application, filing a bond, providing adequate equipment to measure spirits, providing suitable tanks and pipelines, providing a separate building (other than a dwelling) and maintaining detailed records, and filing reports. All of these requirements are listed in 27 CFR Part 19.
Spirits may be produced for non-beverage purposes for fuel use only without payment of tax, but you also must file an application, receive TTB's approval, and follow requirements, such as construction, use, records and reports. In other words: No. This makes me very sad. -Blast
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#206466 - 08/19/10 12:36 AM
Re: My Cold Fusion Reactor
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Registered: 01/28/10
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............ as I understand it, if you denature the alcohol by adding various ingredients to make it unsuitable for drinking, you can avoid having to get alcohol tax stamps as you would for liquor. What if, in the spirit of the new Green Economy, I just let my kidneys add those 'various ingredients'? The finished product is sure to be a hit with some Tour De France racers, and NFL fullbacks.
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