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#206121 - 08/14/10 03:06 AM Re: Razzle Dazzle. [Re: Art_in_FL]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Another useful camouflage effect is that of a homeless person.

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#206168 - 08/14/10 07:15 PM Re: Razzle Dazzle. [Re: oldsoldier]
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In 1972 I was riding a baht bus (windows had heavy metal grenade screen) from Ramasun Station to 2nd circle in Udorn, Thailand in pretty typical GI clothing... Levis, leather harness boot, baseball cap, Early Times in camo bottle bag, when on a pretty deserted part of the road, the bus stopped and 3 young men boarded, two carrying AK47s,and one an M16. I wasn't sure if the Thais had an irregular defense force or not, so assumed they were CTs (comminist terrorists)... luckily I was also wearing a newly purchased shirt from the tailor across from main gate in a native print pattern. I removed my obvious GI gray framed glasses, and lowered my head (glad the baseball cap did not have some USAF logo on it) slouched in the seat, pulled in my legs to hide the Levis and boots and tried to look as if I was asleep. After this incident I always tried to dress in as non American style as possible... native print shirt/non denim tan or grey pants/non GI shoes/plain ballcap...over the years I had a lot of students that traveled to the Middle East, especially Israel, and Africa. I tried to emphasize that it might be to their advantage not to be identified as a US citizen from across the street. regards Les

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#206191 - 08/15/10 02:30 AM Re: Razzle Dazzle. [Re: Art_in_FL]
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Originally Posted By: Art_in_FL
...snip...Hurts my eyes to look at that. I would be beside myself trying to for sure what direction the ship might be traveling in. A wild guess of +/- 30 degrees is as well as I could manage.


And do the geometry - if you do the ROUGH math, during the run time of a WWII torp - about 5 mins for a 6000 meter range (give or take), a ship would do somewhere around 1 mile - if you blow the AOB by 30 degs either way, that torp is not coming ANYWHERE close, and a miss by 50ft was as good as a mile
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#206215 - 08/15/10 08:35 PM Re: Razzle Dazzle. [Re: KG2V]
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And do the geometry - if you do the ROUGH math, during the run time of a WWII torp - about 5 mins for a 6000 meter range (give or take), a ship would do somewhere around 1 mile - if you blow the AOB by 30 degs either way, that torp is not coming ANYWHERE close, and a miss by 50ft was as good as a mile


Exactly.

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