the only part of my gear that's milsurp is the ALICE pack and BOBelt, and even worn together there's no way anyone's going to confuse me with military or LE; what with all the rations i keep around my middle.
i don't wear any surplus or tacticool clothing, preferring jeans and a t-shirt most of the time.

Field camouflage doesn't particularly work well in urban areas and vice versa. The best camouflage is of course a method of dressing which does not generate attention and so in urban areas the camouflage is quite different. If you don't want to be seen then wear the appropriate camouflage.





Typical urban camouflage most popular throughout urban UK cities such as Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester, London etc.

The CCTV culture in the UK is appalling. It is big brother gone mad and the TV show is just a method of conditioning young folks throughout the UK in a clever pysops operation to accept being spied on as normality. I consider many of the areas where these CCTV operations are being carried out (poor and deprived underclass areas) as nothing more than open prisons with the walls being pyschological self imposed barriers forced into operation by the imported gangster culture and hopelessness. There are many who are happy with that status quo (who restrict themselves in their half million dollar plus homes in their own happy privileged little camps/prisons called gated communities).



Try and tell that to the woman who watched herself half naked in her front living room on her own TV on Shoreditch Community Television. Even the TV channels that you watch on your cable TV are used to secretly profile you. The same with your purchases at the supermarket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29JewlGsYxs

It's not like anyone hasn't been warned. Was No6 just an antisocial criminal.

The situation in the UK is actually worse than the East Germany Stasi during the cold war. At least most of the east German citizens knew how to counter the intelligence gathering machine which was human int based. In the UK most folks are simply unaware of the electronic gathering int based machine or believe it to be just benign. Getting off the electronic gathering int based machine is virtually impossible in the UK although I will attempt to for 3 days next week.

I had also recently heard from a colleague that even the Swilken Bridge is now under constant 24hr anti terror surveillance.

Bork,You got me!I'm an American,Born/Raised & No Talla du Svensk!I must have gotten my BeefalaLindstrom mixed up with my Pitipana och pomfritz,but it sure beats Lutafisk! Brost!

>Try and tell that to the woman who watched herself half naked in her front living room on her own TV on Shoreditch Community Television. >

I'll gladly tell her. Name please?
The Sock

>Bork,You got me!I'm an American,Born/Raised & No Talla du Svensk!

You're an American; which tribe?

The Sock (who always finds it amusing when non-red 'Americans' are against immigration)

C'mon guys, lets try and keep this thread going.

LED you are right.
I'm not mentioning surveillance again. And the 'whose american' post is meant as a joke. I'm not discussing that either.
The Sock

Oh, my sweet mama! That was even worse, please stop now

>the poncho liner is the greatest military invention ever


The British military don't issue one; what is it for?
The Sock

The poncho liners is a light weight polyester fill camo blanket designed to tie into a military style poncho so you can use the poncho as a sleeping bag. It can also be used alone in warm weather or used inside a real sleeping/bivvy bag when colder.

Aka - woobie, binkie or blankie (when kidding around)

This remarkable piece of gear is very light, fairly warm, quick to dry, and has various uses. It can be folded fairly small, but normally is just crammed in and around other gear.

There are civilian knockoffs - some better, some not so good.

Regardless, this is the one piece of kit that went into the ruck regardless of the terrain/environment/mission.

I do agree tho, the P38 can opener has it's own place in the military gear that really works hall of fame.