hi gang,i orderd one of those Esbit brand sets from REI here in Arizona a few months back..when they called me and told me it was in i picked it up that day after work and went out to my jeep where i opened it up to inspect my new toy...what hit me was the fact that the cook set was NOT German or even European made but made in china...for me vince g. thats a big no/go , so i put everything back in the box and promtly returned the item and got my money back...folks i like and enjoy Esbit products (used an Esbit cooker and tabs for about 30 years now)but my big turn off for me was a Esbit item made in china....you folks might not mind that its made in the far east but that fact did'nt do it for me vince g. 11b Infantry.....