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#202739 - 05/31/10 04:55 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: LED]
Susan Offline
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There are barter systems currently in use all over the world. Most are kept within communities for obvious reasons. Some trades are direct exchanges, and some use coupons for specified values that can be used anywhere within the barter community.

Here's a local one in MA: http://www.wickedlocal.com/brewster/homepage/x1397979015

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#202745 - 05/31/10 07:46 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: The_Urbivalist]
ironraven Offline
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Well new guy, I know I'm answering this a little late, but I've always said anything that is hard to impossible to make, or at least make well:

Small metal items- needles, pins, fishhooks, paperclips, nails, wire.

Cordage- everything from sewing thread to fishline to paracord to clothesline to hawser.

Salt.

Hand tools.

Basically, if you are the Americas, look to see which trade goods other than booze and firearms were the most in demand by the indigenous tribes in your area.
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#202748 - 05/31/10 08:38 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: ironraven]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
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Loc: Pacific NW, USA
I last bartered in Moscow in 1982 - friend Feliks needed windshield wiper blades for his Dad's car, so we could drive out of town for a party. There were no Car Toys auto parts stores in the USSR back then, and precious few wiper blades apparently. Folks would remove them from their cars when going inside for the night, if they didn't they would probably be gone by the morning and end up on the market the next day. Which is where we went for our wiper blades - our neighborhood source had the blades, and wanted some apples, which we had. About 4 kilos of apples bought us a pair of lightly used wiper blades. Dollars might have been cheaper than apples, but we needed those for petrol, and vodka...

There's barter and then there's barter - no way would I trade guns and/or ammo to strangers or even friends of friends, its not worth it to me no matter what the exchange rate. Also, if I am a source of ammo in hard times, I'm the very kind of person I don't want to associate with, in hard times. If my brother needed some ammo then he can have some, no charge. I'm with Al, I don't foresee America going anywhere near a barter exchange economy.

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#202764 - 05/31/10 11:59 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: Lono]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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I'm with Al, I don't foresee America going anywhere near a barter exchange economy.


By the Power of GreySkull I bet even Goldman Sachs already has a hedged derivatives collateralized debt obligation fund product in dune doubloons for the complex exchange rate future insurance transaction Ponzi scheme for the future post Euro Greek Drachma. wink Any investors anyone. whistle I'd even be willing to triple AAA rate the product myself for just 2% commission of any transaction value.

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Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (06/01/10 12:15 AM)

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#202775 - 06/01/10 01:59 AM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: Art_in_FL]
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Registered: 01/28/10
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Loc: MN, Land O' Lakes & Rivers ...
Along with quantities of AA batteries and .22 cal ammo, I currently maintain a minimum stock of 100 rolls of good quality TP. As stated elsewhere, it will be currency if our 'just in time' ordering system is wiped out......oops.
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#202783 - 06/01/10 09:21 AM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
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I currently maintain a minimum stock of 100 rolls of good quality TP


Good Call. It would seem that the preppers are now the new yuppies. shocked

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-to-invest-for-the-debt-bomb-explosion-2010-02-09

Anyway as a prepper do we need to barter trade goods or haven't we prepared sufficiently well enough!!



Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (06/01/10 10:05 AM)

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#202797 - 06/01/10 03:27 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
bigreddog Offline
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Registered: 07/02/06
Posts: 253
Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
Anyway as a prepper do we need to barter trade goods or haven't we prepared sufficiently well enough!!



Always going to be something you need, even if it just a nicer version of what you already have.

Depends on how far you see the world declining - to Mad Max apocalypse levels or Zimbabwe financial meltdown levels. Either way, almost anything is suitable for barter, but it makes sense if it is something you would use yourself. Look at the things troops give to kids in warzones or tourists give to indigenous tourguides.



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#202799 - 06/01/10 04:01 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: bigreddog]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3840
Loc: USA
I used to barter computer repairs for free treatment from my chiropractor. Her computer was in much better shape than my spine, though, so I ended up writing her a number of checks over the years.

An informal market for the barter of expertise is very common in my social circle. I've obtained free medical advice, extremely valuable legal assistance, mechanical expertise, and the names of reliable contractors. In exchange I've provided advice for preparing for emergencies, plumbing, electrical wiring, and other things.

To get back to the OP, if you have an established web of friendship and social obligation it will be much easier for you to get what you need via barter, and barter of expertise can be very valuable.

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#202802 - 06/01/10 05:02 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: chaosmagnet]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
Guys - No problem with the topic, but I think it's better in Natural/Long Term than urban, so I'm gonna move it


Edited by KG2V (06/01/10 05:03 PM)
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#202804 - 06/01/10 05:28 PM Re: Best Barter Items to Stockpile for WTSHTF? [Re: KG2V]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 665
Loc: Northwest Florida
Just remember, bartering for either goods or services, especially for a business, commercial or professional concern, is a reportable taxable event, at the FMV of the goods or services exchanged. I know no one here would even think of denying the dev..., er, tax collector his due.

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