WOFT - <groan> The budget monster has me by the throat right now. Somebody else start a discussion on this and I'll dive in later when I have a chance. Pick two standard lengths (say, 91mm and 111mm?), cap the number of layers at something not too pudgy, and don't invent anything that doesn't already exist in an SAK. Let's see what folks posit. We oughta be able to come up with an "ETS" SAK - or two.

Tom

PS - Hi, Andy (ADE) - good to see you back posting.