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#19923 - 10/09/03 12:50 AM BSA CAmpmaster Corps (for Willie)
AyersTG Offline
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Registered: 12/10/01
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Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
See this little hidden bit of info on National's site.

Reason I ask is because I've been asked to establish this as an effective volunteer group in our council. As if I need yet ANOTHER thing to do!!! So I'm looking for some shortcut good ideas... or something like that.

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#19924 - 10/09/03 03:22 PM Re: BSA CAmpmaster Corps (for Willie)
billvann Offline
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Registered: 05/10/01
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Loc: NE Illinois, USA (42:19:08N 08...

Wow! It reminds me a lot of some folks I know from my Owasippe days. There was (and still exist) a group of former scouters that volunteered their time to the camp during the summer. I see two key distinctions.

One, this program formalizes the roles, hence giving the council control over their actions. This is both good and bad. Good because it will add consistency and direction to the program. It can also focus the their activities with more direct contact with the boys. Two, it’s directed towards weekend, non-summer camp camping at council facilities. This is a good thing as council camps are typically under utilized by troops who think of them for long-term camping. I especially like the idea of the Campmaster working with new troops to help acclimate them into camping. If a new troop’s adult leaders have little or no experience camping as a troop, this will help ease their burdon.

So you’re going to be a Campmaster.  They saw you coming a mile away.

Okay, so envision yourself as a weekend commissioner. You will not be able to instruct multiple troops effectively. I would look at two approaches. One, develop some core group demonstrations, similar to Outdoor Leader Skills, Wood Badge, Woods of Webelos, etc. Recruit volunteers from the troops’ senior scouts. Have a cracker barrel for them on Friday night. They will become your camp staff for a portion of the weekend. They need to know what their troop plans and schedule are for the weekend. If they already have a program in place, fine. They enjoy the camaraderie of the cracker barrel. Otherwise, you work out a game plan to hold your sessions. If council provides you contacts prior to the weekend, you can coordinate with the leaders as to what specific advancement or program interests them, as well as coordinate resources, such as dutch ovens, food or fees for food if you purchase it. You can also recruit adult leaders to help, both from the camping units and other scouters with too much time on their hands. ;-) Also, look to the OA lodge and chapters to recruit on your staff.

In fact, I’d try to build a summer camp model for the weekend. The Campmaster is the weekend Camp Director, adult Scouters and weekend leaders are the Directors & Commissioners, and OA scouts and senior troop scouts are the staff. I wouldn’t get carried away with it, but adapt parts of that model to meet the demand and requirements for the weekend program.

So to be successful, you’ll need a database of volunteers and their skill sets and training. Pick a few scouters you know and perhaps a guinea pig troop to practice a dry run. Survey troops that are interested and see what they expect and are willing to do to help. Focus programs to fill in the gaps for troops. For example, we always run new scouts through Tote’n Chip and Fireman Chit on their first campout. Some of our older boys work with other scouts on a pioneering project, such as a monkey bridge or tower. We’re fortunate enough to have a large enough troop to do those activities concurrently. Smaller troops cannot. So a Campmaster program can help with those situation.

I would stress the involvement of the camping troops senior scouts. To me, developing leadership skill for this age group is even more important than advancement and learning new skills. A Campmaster program could be a great opportunity for them. If they’re demonstrating a skill to a group of boys that includes scouts from their troop as well as other troops camping that weekend, they’ll have an opportunity to grow.

So when do you start?
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Willie Vannerson
McHenry, IL

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#19925 - 10/09/03 11:45 PM Re: BSA CAmpmaster Corps (for Willie)
AyersTG Offline
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<< So you’re going to be a Campmaster>>

If it were that easy... (and personally fun)

I already wear too many hats - at least two of which "disqualify" me for being a Campmaster (unit leader x 2).

I have to SET UP the corps - they will be accountable to me through their chairperson.

I got handed a list of parameters and directions that I am going to toss out - something closer to the model or ideal is what I will try to establish. I dug that link up on my own - grrr! Did some more light research into what others are doing around the country. You comments / ideas go into the cake mix - thanks.

IMHO this is going to take 2 years to stand up on its own and it will never be "done". But I'll take a lap around the pool a few times before summer camp starts up. I foolishly agreed to model a weekend in November and again in January - and two of the District Camping reps agreed to assist (good guys). But that was before I/we realized that this was not a local concept and that there could be a lot more to this if done well.

At least I'll get a couple of extra weekends out doing things I enjoy...

Don't hold your breath - I'm over-busy for one thing - but I'll PM you when I have some stuff in the hopper. When it's up smoothly, you might want to bring your Troop down to give it a whirl - it's about a 2 1/2 hour drive for you (or thereabouts). Perhaps by next fall, if all goes well... Anyway, I'll keep you posted.

"It only takes an hour of your time a week..." <grin>

Tom

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#19926 - 10/10/03 01:11 PM Re: BSA CAmpmaster Corps (for Willie)
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Registered: 05/10/01
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Loc: NE Illinois, USA (42:19:08N 08...
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You mentioned a winter weekend. Do you have cabins? One program could be to have troops inexperience with winter camping learn how to do it while spending the weekend in cabins. Sounds wierd perhaps, but it could remove resistence becasue it takes out the risks and fear. Then have them follow up with a weekend in tents.
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Willie Vannerson
McHenry, IL

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