#199093 - 03/28/10 02:35 AM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
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Don't be too sure. It is light, reliable, and sturdy. When you rely on a compass, you often must trust it completely. Best to have very good gear. That mirror can come in handy for signaling, as well.
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#199108 - 03/28/10 10:14 AM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
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Registered: 06/02/06
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What is it with the Army and mils ( Milliradian)?? Why don't they use degrees like everyone else?
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#199109 - 03/28/10 10:28 AM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
[Re: Russ]
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The Army uses mils to be more precise. Precison is a good thing when you are directing artillery with a bursting/kill radius of 35 meters and a wound radius of 100m.
When directing artillery or mortar fire, the observer will call in corrections, up/down, left/right in meters. Mils make it easier to use smaller increments.
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#199117 - 03/28/10 04:12 PM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
[Re: scafool]
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Journeyman
Registered: 02/22/10
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Loc: Sweden
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Not exactly milli-radians Russ. close though. Nato Mils are layed out as 6,400 mils in a circle. I think the Swedes used 6,300 and the Russians used 6,000. If it was actually milli-radians it would be 6,283 Yes, until 2007, then we switched to 6400. Prior to the 6,300 division we had our own system called "streck" = roughly translates to "line". 1 streck is the horisontal distance of 1 meter when you you view it from a distance of 1 kilometer.
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#199121 - 03/28/10 04:49 PM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
[Re: Russ]
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What is it with the Army and mils ( Milliradian)?? Why don't they use degrees like everyone else? It saves the artillery guys having to do sums (always a good idea with artillery guys) A radian is an angle where the length of the circumference = radius. So a milliradian is one part in 1000. So at 1km a mil is one metre across, similarly if you know an object is 10m long and you measure it as 1mil you know it is 10km away. Most militaries round off the milliradians, to eg. 6400 so that it's easier to mark off on a compass.
Edited by NobodySpecial (03/28/10 04:50 PM)
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#199228 - 03/30/10 06:36 AM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
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Registered: 03/18/10
Posts: 530
Loc: Montreal Canada
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Suunto MC-2G on impulse buy. Having buyer's remorse now, I really don't need a compass that good. Whats worse is they last a lifetime so you have a long time to remorse about it ! Well it didn't last long, this compass is going back to the store tomorrow. The declination/inclination marking is off by 2 degrees, I'm NOT happy consider its the most expensive compass many outdoor store carries. If I can find one that's accurate I'll exchange one, but if not it'll be returned.
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#199241 - 03/30/10 12:29 PM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
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Registered: 06/26/04
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Do you man the marks were printed wrong?
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#199275 - 03/30/10 10:14 PM
Re: Recommendation for a decent compass
[Re: KenK]
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Registered: 03/18/10
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Loc: Montreal Canada
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No, the declination scale on bottom of the capsule and the outer degree ring don't line up exactly. I.e. zero declination doesn't point exactly to south, but off by 1 or 2 degrees. What's even more weird is I went to the store again and all their stock is like this. So I'm not sure what's going on here, or if they are meant to be like this.
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