>I love watching the people who brag about being survival >experts gasp for breath as soon as they put that BOB they have >been going on and on about forever on their back and actually >trying to walk with it.

You are dead right on that Mac! Like when I did karate and you'd hear people say "I'd give a flying scissor kick to the head..."
Then you'd see them put on a pair of jeans so tight they could barely walk in them. Or when our team was in a light contact tornament we were all too nervous to eat breakfast. Just how realistic was it to expect us to actually USE what we knew?
Try it to see if it works. Making lists of gear and planning are no substitute for doing it.
The Socki