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#196900 - 03/01/10 01:37 PM Re: Efficient Dishwashers [Re: Todd W]
Eugene Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
Originally Posted By: Todd W
Originally Posted By: Eugene
Originally Posted By: Todd W
Some soap that people like I found:
http://www.seventhgeneration.com/Free-and-Clear/Dishwasher-Detergent

Septic Safe
Grey Water Safe

This summer we may finish the gray water project, and plumb the dish washer into it!


I tried the seventh generation stuff and it wasn't getting the dishes clean with a fairly new dishwasher and city water.


Interesting, how dirty were the dishes you put in? Fresh from the table, scraped, pre-washed?


I scrape but don't pre-wash, wife pre washes, so they were in both ways. had to go back to the old detergent.

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#196911 - 03/01/10 04:47 PM Re: Efficient Dishwashers [Re: TheSock]
Todd W Offline
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Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1928
Loc: Mountains of CA
Originally Posted By: TheSock
I've switched to paper plates and plastic cultery for the cats food and am considering it for us too. No soap manufactured and water heated versus more trees cut down.
The Sock


We use paper plates occasionally.
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#196917 - 03/01/10 06:16 PM Re: Efficient Dishwashers [Re: Todd W]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
To tell the truth, there isn't really much difference between a septic tank and greywater pit, except the greywater pit dispenses the water into the upper section of soil where the roots of the EDIBLE FRUIT SHRUBS can use the water and feed on the nutrients, and in the septic system the nitrogen drains out into the nearest water source.

"... once we go 'perm' I'd LOVE to tie my shower, and dish washer into this with the washing machine that would get all the water except the kitchen sink and toilet which is perfect."

Get hold of Art Ludwig's book The NEW Create an Oasis with Grey Water, and check out his ideas on a branched system, draining the different sources of greywater to different areas of your yard. Very clever!

Why not the water from the kitchen sink???

Sue

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#196918 - 03/01/10 06:17 PM Re: Efficient Dishwashers [Re: TheSock]
nursemike Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 870
Loc: wellington, fl
Originally Posted By: TheSock
I've switched to paper plates and plastic cultery for the cats food
The Sock


Good on ya, mate. I have failed in getting the pets to use cutlery, but they are more than happy to eat paper plates-this is could solve the problem way better than my experiment in putting their food on the floor without benefit of dishes-
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#196927 - 03/01/10 07:16 PM Re: Efficient Dishwashers [Re: Susan]
Todd W Offline
Product Tester
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1928
Loc: Mountains of CA
Originally Posted By: Susan
To tell the truth, there isn't really much difference between a septic tank and greywater pit, except the greywater pit dispenses the water into the upper section of soil where the roots of the EDIBLE FRUIT SHRUBS can use the water and feed on the nutrients, and in the septic system the nitrogen drains out into the nearest water source.

"... once we go 'perm' I'd LOVE to tie my shower, and dish washer into this with the washing machine that would get all the water except the kitchen sink and toilet which is perfect."

Get hold of Art Ludwig's book The NEW Create an Oasis with Grey Water, and check out his ideas on a branched system, draining the different sources of greywater to different areas of your yard. Very clever!

Why not the water from the kitchen sink???

Sue


Hi Sue - The idea is to not worry about filling the septic. Our soil report from septic install was ALL CLAY, thus we have poor drainage. I`m sure it was made to account for that, but I would prefer to be safe than sorry smile

Funny you mention that book it's been on my wish list @ amazon for a few months now. I`ll have to get it, and check it out. Due to how our backyard is setup (sloped) it would be rather hard to have the grey water for the garden w/out crossing/digging around the existing leach fields. From the late 1800's we have an old ditch I plan to run the grey water too after the rock/sand pit it's dropped into, and that ditch will feed my someday to be created pond at the bottom of the hill.

Oh, the planning!
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#197804 - 03/12/10 01:45 AM Re: Efficient Dishwashers [Re: Todd W]
aloha Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1059
Loc: Hawaii, USA
I get the dishes done quickly and efficiently when my wife does them.
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