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#196775 - 02/28/10 01:32 AM Magic heat
Mac Offline
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Registered: 02/24/10
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Loc: Alberta, Canada
Hey folks,

I bought a couple of these "magic heat/magic stove" things today to toss in my 4x4 for emergency breakdowns. Basically it is a small can full of some sort of fuel which comes with a little stove to support a small pot or cup. They light via a wick which is secured under a metal threaded cap.

I believe Americans my call this type of thing Sterno(?). I have also heard tell of it called eco fuel or some BS like that. I believe its all the same stuff under different names.

Does anyone know if the function of this stuff will be affected by constant freezing and thawing? Is there a shelf life on it? I can't seem to find any info on this but I suspect someone here may know.

Thanks

Mac


Edited by Mac (02/28/10 01:32 AM)
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#196778 - 02/28/10 01:43 AM Re: Magic heat [Re: Mac]
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My experience has been that Sterno tends to leak or vaporize (fairly warm environment), leaving me with unopened cans that have lost their contents. These cans are the type with a friction fit lid - perhaps there are other types of packaging that work better.

My understanding is that it is basically jellied alcohol. If so, just plain alcohol will keep, and heat, much better in any of several types of burners.
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#196781 - 02/28/10 02:05 AM Re: Magic heat [Re: hikermor]
Mac Offline
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I wonder if vaccum sealing the cans would help. I guess it couldn't hurt to try.

I used to have a vargo triad w/fuel in the truck but more and more I find myself taking it on hikes due to its light weight. I switched to a brunton Raptor but ended up using that a lot as well. I kept forgetting to put them back in the truck before travelling so I snagged these magic heat stoves just to know they will always be there if my other stoves were somewhere else.

I didn't feel right about lighting the triad in the truck if in an emergency struck either. The colourless flame could make a bad situ far worst if the stove were to tip over on my seats in the truck. The Raptor is nice, But it drops to -50 deg cel here and the propane would freeze. I have a peak 1 but thats too dammed big for the truck.
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#196788 - 02/28/10 03:45 AM Re: Magic heat [Re: Mac]
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I just looked up that Magic Heat, and the main difference between it and Sterno is a threaded lid. I guess that alone could make a lot of difference. One reviewer said he bought it for Y2K but just used it this year, and it was fine.

Sue

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#196789 - 02/28/10 03:52 AM Re: Magic heat [Re: Susan]
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Registered: 02/02/08
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Loc: Washington
I like my Esbit stove. The fuel tabs need to be stored in something like a ziplock bag or else you wind up with everything smelling like, well a slightly fishy stench. But they keep forever...

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#196801 - 02/28/10 05:55 AM Re: Magic heat [Re: Tarzan]
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Registered: 02/24/10
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Loc: Alberta, Canada
I wouldn't want to burn esbit inside a vehicle though....
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#196823 - 02/28/10 05:30 PM Re: Magic heat [Re: Mac]
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I haven't used sterno in quite a few years. To the best of my knowledge, they tended to evaporate if not sealed properly.

Has anyone tried using this type of "canned heat"? I'm curious as to your experience.

Eco fuel cannister
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#196826 - 02/28/10 05:56 PM Re: Magic heat [Re: BrianEagle]
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Registered: 01/25/09
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Originally Posted By: BrianEagle
I haven't used sterno in quite a few years. To the best of my knowledge, they tended to evaporate if not sealed properly.

Has anyone tried using this type of "canned heat"? I'm curious as to your experience.

Eco fuel cannister


I picked up a case of the Eco-fuel about 10 years back and it still is good, just make sure and seal the cans back up tight. I carry a couple of cans of it (plus the stove to go with it) in my SUV, as it's stable even in hot weather. It's not nearly as fast boiling up water as my Snow Peak Gigi power stove, but in an emergency it would sure get the job done.

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#196827 - 02/28/10 06:11 PM Re: Magic heat [Re: rebwa]
Mac Offline
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Loc: Alberta, Canada
Thats nice to know. Ten years And I hope to have a new truck so if the magic heat lasts that long I am in business.

Do they smoke a lot as they burn?
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#196837 - 02/28/10 07:46 PM Re: Magic heat [Re: Mac]
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I've used Eco-Fuel, 5-10 minutes at a time, for cooking. Didn't notice any smoke at all.

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