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#192724 - 01/05/10 11:43 PM Re: Dohhh [Re: Blast]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Sub zero "Arctic conditions" and the idiots are out there in track suits? How'd they even make it to the car without thinking "hmm, better grab a jacket?"

What a bunch of utter fools. These jokers are the types that need to be fined for rescues. Total and complete disconnect between their brain and body.

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#192726 - 01/06/10 12:07 AM Re: Dohhh [Re: MDinana]
Art_in_FL Offline
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Registered: 09/01/07
Posts: 2432
You can't blame them too much. I mean the hike is what ... maybe half an inch on the old Rand-McNally road map. The scale that tells you that an inch is 50 miles, and the fact that it is all up hill, was missed. Not knowing any better they figured it wasn't going to be much more involved than a trip to the local grocery a couple of blocks away.

Odds are they felt a bit nippy starting, possibly just getting to the car, but figured they would 'warm up once they got going'. Clearly more gumption than brains. But humans do stupid things as a matter of course, and such rescues are teachable moments and good training for the rescue services.

I've done my share, possibly more than my share, of stupid things and, for the most part, got lucky and avoided calamity. I see no point to celebrating stupidity. But I'm not one to begrudge anyone rescue or do too much condemning.


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#192732 - 01/06/10 12:57 AM Re: Dohhh [Re: Art_in_FL]
Adventureboy Offline
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Registered: 11/18/09
Posts: 51
Loc: Peoria, AZ ,USA
WoW, I once heard a saying "Nothing is foolproof a better idiot will always be invented." That seems to apply here. Hope I am not stealing someones signature :[ .
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#192749 - 01/06/10 06:19 AM Re: Dohhh [Re: Adventureboy]
Johno Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Scotland
AAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH F*******G IDIOTS.

Now that's out of my system. Idiots like this dont seem to realise the danger they put others to by their gross and deliberate stupidity.

Lets have a look.

Sea King crew 4-5.
Sea King Ground Crew 10
MRT 10
Misc odds and sods 10 (police, ambulance etc)

So potentially 35 other souls at risk because these idiots fancied a walk in the "oh so pretty snow" Plus the fact the MRT and Helo was removed from the rescue roster whilst it was on the job. Next nearest rescue asset is over 250 miles away (I think)

Absolute selfish idiots.

Oh Pete and Blast we are turning into a nanny state, fact not politics.


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#192754 - 01/06/10 08:00 AM Re: Dohhh [Re: MDinana]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 982
Loc: Norway
Originally Posted By: MDinana
Sub zero "Arctic conditions" and the idiots are out there in track suits? How'd they even make it to the car without thinking "hmm, better grab a jacket?"


Now that part is easy to answer: You dress thin for high intensity activity - like running. The outfit works like a charm for what it is designed to do: Venting away excess moisture and providing adequate wind block and insulation for a body working at high intensity in cold air. Of course, unless you bring along extra clothes this outfit will leave you with close to zero margin for error if you for some reason have to stop. Even just being forced to go slower will be troublesome because your heat production will not match the heat loss.


Why anyone would venture out in the mountain dressed like that is beyond me. A mountain hike in winter is NOT jogging in the park in winter. But we see the same here in Norway: Lots of people use skiing track suits when they go skiing in the mountains, and I see very little room for backup clothes and other emergency equipment in their puny little daypacks....

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#192755 - 01/06/10 11:35 AM Re: Dohhh [Re: paramedicpete]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Originally Posted By: paramedicpete
Let's play nice blush. We don't like negative comments about the US, so let's agree to keep the politics out of the thread.

My 2 cents-
Pete



Ah hem,

FYI Britain is not part of America.


And those lads were Scousers.

It's a matter of (spirited) debate as to whether they are actually British, but there is complete agreement that they are most definitely not American.

I would offer to let you have them. But one is not feeling that cruel - yet.


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#192762 - 01/06/10 02:39 PM Re: Dohhh [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
NobodySpecial Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 197
>FYI Britain is not part of America.
Paramedicpete's point was that comments about a British Nanny state,from a presumably US poster, were rude - given how similair comments about the US are regarded.


>And those lads were Scousers.
In a similair incident 2 Geordies wearing T-Shirts were also rescued from Snowdon suffering from heat exhaustion ;-)

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#192786 - 01/06/10 08:46 PM Re: Dohhh [Re: NobodySpecial]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
Please translate "Scouser" and Geordie." I'm guessing Scot and Brit, respectively.

Didn't Winston Churchill say that the US and UK were two nations separated by a common language?
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#192790 - 01/06/10 09:09 PM Re: Dohhh [Re: hikermor]
Johno Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Scotland
Scousers are from Liverpool, Geordies from Newcastle upon Tyne.
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#192791 - 01/06/10 09:29 PM Re: Dohhh [Re: Johno]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Originally Posted By: Johno
Scousers are from Liverpool, Geordies from Newcastle upon Tyne.


And they both think that the rest of Britain is populated by a bunch of poncy wimps. smile

As it happens I worked with both & found them refreshingly blunt. If they don't like you it shows.

My sort of people smile smile

On a much more serious note, I think that they honestly did not appreciate that "Arctic conditions" meant exactly that. When the British press use that term, they usually mean about freezing, warming up by lunch time.


Oh and +1 re Arrrgh. If they knew, prosecute them to the limit's of the law for endangering life.

Just to give the rest pause.



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