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#191477 - 12/21/09 06:59 PM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: Alex]
Mark_F Offline
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Registered: 06/24/09
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Originally Posted By: Alex


detector radio (use the tip over a rusty razor blade);


Say what???? Can you explain that one please.
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#191478 - 12/21/09 07:04 PM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: Mark_F]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Mark--it's a Fox Hole Radio..Google that and buy a kit!..i got one as a rainy day project for canoe trips..good weather last year so it's not put together yet--

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#191508 - 12/22/09 02:28 AM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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glass etcher . snap line creator
when bent & sharpened, mini barbed gig / arrow head
elecrical jumper
with "ink" a pen
when heated create holes or pirece plexiglass / plastic
egg end holer
insect stringer and cooking skewer
hook to hang stuff over cooking or heating fire
mini cauterizer / brand / burning tool
snare loop slider
pithing tool for small critters
tuber / root vegetable "done-ness" tester
one-tined "fork"
seam ripper
nail
large wound closing "clamp" [ouch!]
peck holes / lines in stuff weaker than safety pin
sundial/ sun-compass post
O ring
fishing rod "eye"


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#191551 - 12/22/09 03:34 PM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Originally Posted By: CANOEDOGS
Mark--it's a Fox Hole Radio..Google that and buy a kit!..i got one as a rainy day project for canoe trips..good weather last year so it's not put together yet--


Thanks canoedogs. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Now I'll never get on DWs good side after spending more money on one of those. wink

EDIT: That looks like an awesome project for DSs cub scout troop. The kits look pretty expensive for that ($16 + $4.25 shipping is not bad for one but I can't afford to buy 10 -15 of them even at that price and popcorn sales were too low this year to get the troop to buy them). Any suggestions to improvise items or equipment. I am thinking along the lines of cutting my own tubes, say from plastic pipe, or using empty TP rolls for the coil tube (actually one kit uses the board itself for the coil wrap instead of an additional tube. That will save a little); buying electrical clips in bulk or simply using nails (it looks like a metal contact is all that is needed); buying the wire in bulk rolls if possible; cut boards from scrap lumber or from a large sheet of plywood; wire hangar for the tuning slide (actually the foxhole kits don't look like they need a tuning slide); #2 pencils shouldn't be a problem (buy a package and cut into shorter pieces). The earpieces and blued razor blades could be a problem. Any suggestions?


Edited by Mark_Frantom (12/22/09 04:07 PM)
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#191553 - 12/22/09 04:01 PM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: Mark_F]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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super cheap..you have stuff around the house--safety pin,razor blade pencil lead,wire and screws..a real DTY bit of survival gear.it's only a receiver of course and i get the impression they worked in the fox holes of WW2 in Europe because the GI's were close to powerful stations.


Edited by CANOEDOGS (12/22/09 04:06 PM)

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#191555 - 12/22/09 04:09 PM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Registered: 06/24/09
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Thanks again canoedogs. You answered my edit before I even posted it. Still wondering about the earpiece though. EDIT: Found them here:

http://www.xtalman.com/headsets.html

for 3.49 each, designed for use with these radios. Also you mention rusty razor blade, I assume this is comparable to the blued razor blade mentioned for the kits (makes sense since IIRC bluing is actually just a layer of oxidation - rust - on the metal surface)?


Edited by Mark_Frantom (12/22/09 04:22 PM)
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#191569 - 12/22/09 06:37 PM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: Mark_F]
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Registered: 03/01/07
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That earpiece works best (a cheaper deal is here) , but you can do pretty well using an old style telephone tube (or just an earpiece from it) - http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio/radio.html . You can harvest enough enamel wire from any transformer or electrical motor. The coil core could be anything round of any diameter, but not conductive. The razor blades can be blued in bulk with propane torch. Electrical contacts - nails or paper clips. The most important thing is to provide a very long (high) antenna wire and a massive grounding point. Also you may want to make the pilot version of the radio with your particular components in order to tune it up beforehand (primarily - the amount of wire on the coil to catch the closest, or most powerful radio station in your region).

Many alternative ideas here: http://bizarrelabs.com/foxhole.htm

If I would teach scouts, I'd provide them with a big enough broken AC/DC adapter and a telephone tube (the last component can be hard to find these days, though). No razor blade. You can find a diode or transistor almost in any electronics (the AC rectifier and LED works as an ordinary diode too).

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#191604 - 12/23/09 02:43 AM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: WILD_WEASEL]
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Loc: Afghanistan
In all honesty I never expected this thread to take off like it has. As a self improvement project while in Southwest Asia I’ve also been studying for my FCC Technician and General tickets. One of the more interesting aspects of Ham radio is the use of high performance crystal radios for DXing (long distance). The following site http://www.midnightscience.com is one of the best I’ve come across for anything crystal radio, along with plans/kits for a fox whole radio, yes that use a safely pin for a cat’s wicker.

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#191616 - 12/23/09 05:34 AM Re: SAFETY PIN IMPROVISATION [Re: WILD_WEASEL]
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Registered: 02/03/07
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Loc: MINNESOTA
fox hole radios seem to be a hot subject right now.over at "antiqueradios.com" in the Antique Radio Forum you will find for 12-13 a post about Superboys Foxhole Radio.it's a very good old comic page in color with some good details and links..the link to comic book front pages will kill an hour or so--

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