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#189254 - 11/26/09 07:38 PM 75 skills a man must have
clarktx Offline
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75 skills men must learn

I like articles like this which offer a much more concise worldview than a book. A book like the SAS Survival Handbook will provide you with a lot of information but never in one sitting the way a solid magazine article will.

I like how a fair amount of emergency preparedness has worked its way in. This is a continuing trend. 34, 35, 51, 55, 68, 69, 72 are the clear ones in this list, but to a lesser degree a lot more would fit... I would count 7, 11, 14, 18, 20, 25, 26, 43, 45 as being preparedness related. There are a few others which are weakly related, and as much as 1/3 of the 75 are skills that are related to survival in some fashion... IMO.

I would love to see a short, concise article on this topic for the sole purpose of typical urban survival, with an emphasis on preparedness. Somewhere between 50 and 100 items you should know. A brochure and not a pamphlet.

If anyone who writes aricles is listening...
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#189256 - 11/26/09 07:43 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: clarktx]
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Properly on the list? Critical but left off the list? Too cultutally biased? Let the debate rage!

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#189257 - 11/26/09 07:55 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: dweste]
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A real man makes his own list. A skills list and a bucket list. Anything else is fashion following foppery. grin


Edited by dougwalkabout (11/26/09 07:56 PM)

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#189259 - 11/26/09 08:44 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: dougwalkabout]
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One skill a woman must have: finding a man with the seventy-five skills.


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#189265 - 11/26/09 10:47 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: Dagny]
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And then teaching him to unlearn them so she can teach him what he really needs to know.

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#189270 - 11/27/09 12:45 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: dweste]
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Ok, that list is terrible. Was it really written by a guy? A jump shot in pool? That's not a skill, that's a clown trick. Playing gin? I just don't get it. Any skill not used in the movie The Outlaw Josey Wales is not required, with the possible exceptions of driving a car and welding.

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#189274 - 11/27/09 01:44 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: UpstateTom]
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All I need now is a list of seventy-five skills a female geek must have.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#189282 - 11/27/09 02:28 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
hikermor Offline
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The list is silly, if not moronic.
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#189287 - 11/27/09 03:03 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: UpstateTom]
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Quote:
Was it really written by a guy?


It would appear it was written by Professor Tom Chiarella who even appears to be a grown up. wink Academics specialising in creative English writing, well what more can you say.

BTW do folks actually still purchase Esquire Magazine? Judging by the websites journalistic articles the target demographic must still be 16-22 year old males. I thought Esquire magazine would have died out along time ago along with Gordon Gekko, Crockett and Tubbs.







Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (11/27/09 03:38 AM)

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#189289 - 11/27/09 03:08 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
timo Offline
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I aggree with some of the items. In fact, I've got some catching up to do!

But I do think these should be added...

Know how to solder, properly.
Know how to weld (MIG counts, barely. TIG gets you extra points).

Know how to drive a manual transmission vehicle. Ownership required.
Know how to ride a motorcycle. Ownership required.
(I know these two are controversial, but why deny yourself the simple pleasure?)

Know how to sharpen a knife.
Know how to explain that a sharp knife is safer than a dull knife.
Know how to tie a bowline.
Know how to measure with calipers and micrometers.
Know that some women have their own list that's as valid as yours.

And my personal credo...Know how to fix things WITHOUT resorting to duct tape
if it's not an emergency.


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#189292 - 11/27/09 03:53 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: hikermor]
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Some of those are okay; others not so much. I figure that a list like that made by just about anyone would have a few that I wouldn't agree with.

I wouldn't have suggested a reef knot. It is a pretty useless, and potentially dangerous, knot. I would have taken Up about four of the 'skills' with four knots: bowland (from bow-line), round turn and two half hitches (properly a clove hitch), clove hitch, sheet bend (double sheet bend for extra credit). Know them well enough to make them reliably blindfolded. [Note that is really only three knots as two are actually the same knot very useful knot in different uses. Can you name the two that are the same? If in doubt get a length of line and try them out. It will dawn on you if you look at them long enough.]

My pet peeves are guys who think certain skills are 'woman's work' and beneath or beyond them. Get over yourself. A good women likes guys who aren't entirely dependent on them. She's a wife or girlfriend, not your mother. Every man should know the basics of how to sew (sew a simple hem and reattach a button) and clean (sweep, mop and wipe) and cook (cook a simple meal, and make soup, stew and salad). That's either three or nine skills depending on how you count.

Anyone who drives should learn how to skid, drive in mud. It is useful to learn how to drift around a corner, do a 'doughnut', do a 'bootlegger's turn while staying in control. Find a flat piece of muddy land, or smooth-wet parking lot free of obstacles, and have someone teach you. If you know how to slide on purpose you can control a skid when you get into one.

Everyone should know how to erect a simple shelter. Minimal standard is to make a simple shelter on flat open ground if given at least one pole, tarp, four stakes and 25' of light line. Advanced builders should be able to make a shelter entirely out of found materials virtually anywhere, excepting places like sand dunes and sea ice, using nothing more than a knife.

There are many more but those are the ones that come to mind.

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#189295 - 11/27/09 06:05 AM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: Art_in_FL]
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Okay, my first response was particularly smart@ss, though I think it still has great merit. I would therefore add: a real man reserves the absolute right to edit his list at will; consultation be hanged.

I confess that re-reading the Esquire list, I quite like it. Not as a hard checklist, but as an off-beat and amusing and well-written piece. It endeavours to frame the impossible, that fleeting entity, the Well-Rounded Man.

It seems we've given up on that ideal; we know too much about too much; we despair of knowing enough to claim that title. Everyone is a specialist now. We're all tribal, and entrenched, in our niches, knowing more and more about less and less. Our only WRM is fictional, on the big screen.

It used to be that the Well-Rounded Man was the goal of education. He had a working understanding of science, of commerce, of governance, of philosophy and religion, of the military and aesthetic arts. He could fight a duel, go to war, hold his own in conversation, and dazzle the ladies at the ball. An officer, gentleman, and scholar, with practical savvy and social graces. This idea is as old as the Greeks; and I seem to recall that H.G. Wells tried his hand at framing this as well, which puts us well into the 20th century. I also note that Google has some 2.67 million hits for that phrase.

(For the record, I have no objection to the Well-Rounded Woman either. In every sense of the phrase. I am proud to count my DW as one of these.)

So, if you buy my long-winded argument: what defines the Well-Rounded Man in this day and age?

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#189312 - 11/27/09 03:37 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: timo]
Jeanette_Isabelle Online   content
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Originally Posted By: timo
Know how to solder, properly.

I've learned that in electronics class.

Edit: I have not read the entire list but everyone, who drives a vehicle, needs to know how to change a battery, add water to a maintenance battery, clean battery post and connectors, change battery cables or connectors, change the alternator, check and inflate tires (once every two months) and know the correct p.s.i., properly check and top off the fluids with the right fluids.

Jeanette Isabelle


Edited by JeanetteIsabelle (11/27/09 03:56 PM)
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#189322 - 11/27/09 07:48 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

-Robert A. Heinlein


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#189329 - 11/27/09 08:41 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: fasteer]
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The Heinlein quoute in general is great, but THIS

Originally Posted By: fasteer
Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein


is in a league of its own.

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#189374 - 11/28/09 03:24 PM Re: 75 skills a man must have [Re: MostlyHarmless]
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the core of the message, the whole thing in a nutshell, roughly the size of the thing, well, there it is.

i like to think i'm fairly well rounded.. let me fire off a short list.

the usual ETS stuff -fire, shelter, first aid, basic auto maintenance, bear wrestling, etc.

Right an essay.
Tell a story.
Address a crowd.
Sketch a landscape.
Weld a joint.
Operate a lathe, drill press, and mill.
Build functional furniture.
Make, sharpen, and use a knife.
Sew.
Crack a whip.
Set all manner of digital clocks.
Cook.
Leave no obvious trace of having cooked.
"Do my own damn laundry."
Push the right "buttons" at the right time(if you know what i mean).
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