Equipped To Survive Equipped To Survive® Presents
The Survival Forum
Where do you want to go on ETS?

Topic Options
#188941 - 11/23/09 03:02 AM International Survival Instructors Association
BruceZed Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 01/06/08
Posts: 319
Loc: Canada
Has anyone ever heard of the "International Survival Instructors Association". They seem to have no web site and I say them of the REI Website claiming that they approved of the firesteel.
_________________________
Bruce Zawalsky
Chief Instructor
Boreal Wilderness Institute
boreal.net

Top
#188947 - 11/23/09 04:37 AM Re: International Survival Instructors Association [Re: BruceZed]
dougwalkabout Offline
Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3240
Loc: Alberta, Canada
FWIW, I haven't heard of them (but I'm no expert in the field).

They do seem to be ghosts on the Web. That's odd these days, but doesn't necessarily mean anything. A Web presence is not a legal, or practical, requirement; nor does it indicate competence or lack thereof.

Perhaps you should contact REI and the product manufacturer and ask for more information about the organization and its testing process and approval criteria. These are fair and valid questions.

BTW: I have one of these firesteels, and they produce an impressively hot spark -- quite effective, even with very coarse tinder. But I haven't given it a total hell test, so YMMV.

Top
#188954 - 11/23/09 05:55 AM Re: International Survival Instructors Association [Re: dougwalkabout]
scafool Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
Nope, same problem Bruce.

All I keep finding is the ad copy from Light my Fire where they claim the International Survival Instructors Association approved of the Swedish Firesteel.

Possibly they mean "The International Association for Safety and Survival Training" which does exist, but I doubt it for some reason.

Maybe contacting Light My Fire would get you an answer.
http://www.light-my-fire.com/10-contact.htm

I have an idea it is just ad copy.


Edited by scafool (11/23/09 05:55 AM)
_________________________
May set off to explore without any sense of direction or how to return.

Top
#188957 - 11/23/09 08:04 AM Re: International Survival Instructors Association [Re: scafool]
dougwalkabout Offline
Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3240
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Yeah, "ad copy" was my first instinct. As in, "ad copy ... and paste ... from supplied materials;" it happens.

But seriously, before piling on, I confess that I don't have any hard facts about the "recommendation," so it's just a question mark. (As noted earlier, the product does have some merit IMHO; I'd be glad to have one in a pinch.)

I haven't done business with REI, but my understanding is that they're a pretty solid outfit. I think if the approval was fuzzy, they'd have the class to correct it in the event they'd been "had."

And, just for perspective, it's a $10-15 item. I regularly buy stuff to test if it looks promising. If it fails, cross it off the list. That's the cost of education. No problem.



Edited by dougwalkabout (11/23/09 08:06 AM)

Top
#188973 - 11/23/09 02:07 PM Re: International Survival Instructors Association [Re: dougwalkabout]
kd7fqd Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 08/07/05
Posts: 359
Loc: Saratoga Springs,Utah,USA
Try This
www.iasst.com
I typed in International Survival Instructors Association into search and that is what I got


Mike

_________________________
EDC: Samsung Galaxy Note 2,DR PSK, Swiss Army Champ, Leatherman Blast
My Blog emergencybobs.wordpress.com


Top
#188976 - 11/23/09 03:17 PM Re: International Survival Instructors Association [Re: dougwalkabout]
BruceZed Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 01/06/08
Posts: 319
Loc: Canada
I own a large number of Firesteels and they are excellent, it is purely cuiriosity to see if this organization really exsists and who is in it?
_________________________
Bruce Zawalsky
Chief Instructor
Boreal Wilderness Institute
boreal.net

Top



Moderator:  Alan_Romania, Blast, cliff, Hikin_Jim 
November
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Who's Online
0 registered (), 581 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Aaron_Guinn, israfaceVity, Explorer9, GallenR, Jeebo
5370 Registered Users
Newest Posts
Leather Work Gloves
by KenK
Yesterday at 06:43 PM
Satellite texting via iPhone, 911 via Pixel
by Ren
11/05/24 03:30 PM
Emergency Toilets for Obese People
by adam2
11/04/24 06:59 PM
For your Halloween enjoyment
by brandtb
10/31/24 01:29 PM
Chronic Wasting Disease, How are people dealing?
by clearwater
10/30/24 05:41 PM
Things I Have Learned About Generators
by roberttheiii
10/29/24 07:32 PM
Gift ideas for a fire station?
by brandtb
10/27/24 12:35 AM
Newest Images
Tiny knife / wrench
Handmade knives
2"x2" Glass Signal Mirror, Retroreflective Mesh
Trade School Tool Kit
My Pocket Kit
Glossary
Test

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: SELECT AND USE OUTDOORS AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK. Information posted on this forum is not reviewed for accuracy and may not be reliable, use at your own risk. Please review the full WARNING & DISCLAIMER about information on this site.