#187670 - 11/06/09 11:28 AM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
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Loc: London England
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Go to this sites home page and on the left hand side you'll see advice written by an expert. The Sock
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#187672 - 11/06/09 12:18 PM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
[Re: TheSock]
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC
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I'm going to REI today to buy another of Doug's AMK kits. It will be part of a birthday gift -- in addition to his MK5 knife and e-Pico light -- that's going to a hiker friend who treks every year in the Himalayas.
Buy Doug's MK5 knife and his AMK personal survival kit and read the literature that's included with it.
That'll get you 90% of the way to having, and augmenting as needed, an appropriate PSK.
Good luck.
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#187676 - 11/06/09 01:22 PM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
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Registered: 10/01/09
Posts: 184
Loc: Nebraska
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Your lucky. I have a Cabelas and Bass Pro about 10 miles out and they still don't seem to have that large a variety for camping/survival. Wish they'd throw a REI up somewhere out here.
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#187722 - 11/06/09 09:41 PM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
[Re: T_Co]
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Registered: 06/24/09
Posts: 714
Loc: Kentucky
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When it comes to survival kits, I always think about the basic essentials first - your immediate priorities in a survival situation: First Aid, Shelter, Fire, Water, Signalling, and Food. To address these needs I carry a good first aid kit; a heatsheets emergency bivvy, heatsheets blanket, and some 550 parachute cord; spark-lite, strike anywhere matches in a bright orange waterproof case, bic lighter, magnesium and flint bar, candle (keep it in a baggie to avoid melting messes), tinder quik, fire starter sticks, some paper, and an ultra-thin piece of corrugated cardboard (check out your empty big mac box next time to see what I mean); a canteen or Nalgene water bottle with a stainless steel cup, water purification tablets, some coffee filters, and as a backup some heavy duty ziploc bags or baking bags; a good quality signal mirror, whistle, and some brightly colored bandannas (the bandannas are very useful for other things too); food bars of your choice (cereal bars and chewy granola bars are tops with us). Along with a knife and a sharpener, this is the stuff that should be kept on your person as Doug suggests, either in your pockets or on your belt (such as the knife and canteen). I also have a small led flashlight that I keep on my person (of course I hope to replace this with the doug ritter designed eq headlamp soon). Most of these items are in the Pocket Survival Pak I carry (check the contents list for the other items in it I have left out here like fishing kit, wire and duct tape), the other items ride in my other pockets (love those cargo pants and shorts). In addition, I have a small maxpedition pouch on my belt that carries some long term essentials and comfort items: a sewing kit with extra safety pins, some rubber bands and twisty ties, extra aluminum foil, wire saw, glasses repair kit, sunscreen, insect repellant, extra batteries, some tubing, and some carabiners and split rings. Yes it is tight but you can squeeze it all in there. If you can manage, you should also carry some rain gear (a good nylon raincoat and rain pants), some extra warm clothing (an extra sweater or jacket, gloves and a hat), larger compass (note the psp has a mini-compass), map of the area you are in, mess kit, some toilet paper and maybe some toiletries (toothbrush, toothpaste, cleansing towlette) as well. I usually put this and a folding saw in a daypack. As you might be able to tell, my kit is used in wooded areas with the potential for cold weather. Your kit should reflect the types of terrain you will be traveling in, the extremes of weather you will encounter and the amount and type of gear you want to carry. Make it as comprehensive as you can carry or as minimalist as you dare. As a final note, since you will be putting your own kit together, make sure you use QUALITY gear.
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#187757 - 11/07/09 03:23 AM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
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Registered: 10/23/09
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Loc: 49th parallel
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For winter survival for 4th graders out skiing, boarding or snow shoeing, we recommend at least-
Synthetic and wool clothes on, no cotton and include a warm hat. Large heavy duty trash bag in pocket. Plastic whistle around neck.
Since they are not allowed knives at school and the heavy snows here preclude making a proper fire for most mortals, knife and matches are not included in school oriented survival trainings.
Other things we recommend- mini flashlight water and snack
You have to keep it simple for them, so they will remember without a big list to refer to.
Edited by Oware (11/07/09 03:30 AM)
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#187876 - 11/09/09 04:57 PM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
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Enthusiast
Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 288
Loc: Europe
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When it comes to a kit that I carry on me I donīt have a "sealed kit". I rather carry belt retention system with carabiner which holds almost every item I carry on me. Itīs my EDC at the same time. I add to it or subtract from it as needed. The essential items always have their place secured on the carabiner though. This photo is not up to date, some items are missing - e.g. knife and tinder. I will have to take another photo. I like this setup, itīs secured, I can quickly get to the items, I can see the items all the time and check their condition, ... Items that are too big to be clipped into carabiner are carried in various pockets. This way I donīt end up with one bulky kit in one pocket. I also have second kit which resides in the backpack. Itīs for some additional or redundant items etc. Itīs waterproof and "sealed".
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#187951 - 11/10/09 01:46 PM
Re: Wilderness survival kit
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Registered: 06/24/09
Posts: 714
Loc: Kentucky
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Good question canoedogs. I always find myself adding to rather than taking away from my kit. It is admittedly a lot of gear but as bad as it looks on paper (so to speak) it packs surprisingly light and well. With the noted exceptions most of it rides in my pockets (did I mention I love those cargo pants and shorts :-)). I have always struggled to get a kit down to an EDC size. Currently I am experimenting with packing an Altoids tin with a small kit and just can't seem to fit it all in. I think maybe the tin will be just too small. I always go back to the six essentials - first aid, shelter, fire, water, signalling, and food - and I try to include something to cover each of these. I also continually hear Doug Ritter quotes ringing in my head: "Keep the most essential survival gear on your person" and "Your primary survival kit should be able to provide you with medical care, shelter, the means to summon help and sustenance. Most importantly, IT SHOULD DO THIS WITHOUT A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT OR IMPROVISATION ON YOUR PART" and so on. I haven't forgot your question. I am still pondering on it. Let me get back to you and welcome any suggestions.
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