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#186529 - 10/26/09 01:38 PM Re: Small planes, what to wear for safety? Avoidance? [Re: BruceZed]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
Leave the nomex fleece packed or wear the nomex fleece as a shell? I wear nomex fleece because if there's a fire you need it right now.
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#186546 - 10/26/09 04:36 PM Re: Small planes, what to wear for safety? Avoidance? [Re: Susan]
Tyber Offline
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Registered: 04/27/09
Posts: 304
Loc: ST. Paul MN
Originally Posted By: Susan
The few pilots I've known (small aircraft) have generally agreed that the most common reason for engine failure is water in the fuel. Since water is heavier than the fuel, it sinks to the bottom of the tank. Most pilots will drain a cup or so of fuel out of the tank prior to every flight. Some pilots forget, are drunk, are thinking about other things, or don't think it's necessary.

Some pilots fly too low over ridges and get caught in downdrafts. Some don't pay enough attention to their altimeters, or didn't adjust it for the barometric pressure, or don't really know what the elevation is of the terrain they're flying over.

Always ask the pilot if he/she has filed a flight plan. Or be with him when he does it. If you're too embarrassed to ask, you're too dumb to fly. If he/she says something like, "What's wrong, don't you trust me?", say "Not with my life, no."

A little Cessna 150 can go over 300 miles on one tank (depending on the plane, the load and how much throttle the pilot uses). That distance would provide a search area of over 70,000 square miles, about the size of Missouri. With two skinny people on board, no cargo, a tuned engine and a decent tailwind, maybe about 500 miles, so you can kick the search area up to almost 200,000 square miles (three-quarters of Texas).

Good advice seen here before: "Dress for egress" and "Dress to survive, not to arrive".

Sue



Sue:

This advise is just perfect.. so concise and very practial. I wanted to say that I love your line of, "If you're too embarrassed to ask, you're too dumb to fly"

Also I can't agree with the line of, "dress to survive, not arrive." Every time I have to dress to arive for something, I feel akward and ill prepaired. though I am getting better at hiding my equipment in my tux.

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#186550 - 10/26/09 05:41 PM Re: Small planes, what to wear for safety? Avoidance? [Re: Tyber]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Yes, the tux problem is a problem. Even James Bond would have a hard time carrying much.

Even worse are those skinny little dresses that look like slips -- it's hard to hid anything. Of course, sometimes not hiding things is the point... wink

Sue

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#186936 - 10/30/09 02:48 PM Re: Small planes, what to wear for safety? Avoidance? [Re: Susan]
armageddon_aviator Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/30/07
Posts: 32
Loc: Israel
Hi

I wear a SRU-21P survival vest whenever I fly over desolate areas / wilderness.

The vest DOES restrict your movements - but it's manageable.

When flying near urban areas, I keep some survival gear in my flight bag.

I am contemplating an eventual upgrade and get an Israeli Air Force model - but it's hard to justify the $ 1000 expense...


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#186942 - 10/30/09 03:16 PM Re: Small planes, what to wear for safety? Avoidance? [Re: Russ]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
Nomex shell material is like regular cloth for coveralls. Not as heavy as denim but heavier than regular cotton clothing.
It is very tough.
If you are flying a small plane and it is cold enough in the cabin for wearing long underwear then Nomex fleece becomes an option, but the regular Nomex outer shell protects against flash fires pretty well.

It is a lot less bulky, and you can just put it on over your regular clothes too.
For warmth it is like adding one extra layer of clothing so if your cabin is warm you might want to stow your regular jacket in your kit bag while you are wearing it.

If you are a passenger on a commercial flight you might want to consider a decent wool suit instead of any special clothing like coveralls.
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#186944 - 10/30/09 03:58 PM Re: Small planes, what to wear for safety? Avoidance? [Re: scafool]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
And for women: Wear clothes and shoes you can run in.

Sue

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