TLO or not - let them call the police, and get the court order - I would not unlock the car. We can argue in court if TLO holds RE a car in the parking lot vs a student in the building vs a locker

Sorry folks - I'd just say NO - let them do it the hard way

"Sorry folks - I'd just say NO - let them do it the hard way"

You would do it, and I would do it, and many here would do it, but it is exceedingly unlikely that a 16-yr-old kid (esp a good one) is going to have the fortitude to do that. He's been trained all his life to do as he's told.

Sue

Leaving aside all of the legalities, I find it very curious that there is no reason given for them searching him or his car.

Well, we just had a similar case here in MA. Apparently, a 6 year old cub scout took his mess set (spoon, knife, fork combo) to school earlier this week. When the teacher saw it, the kid was immediately suspended for 45 days, and had to go to reform school-no questions asked. When interviewed, the superintendant said that was part of the "zero tolerance" that the school preaches. After being on the news all week, including several interviews with the parents & the poor kid, cooler heads prevailed. The superintendant was convinced that knee jerk reactions dont work-that the boy took it to school to eat with, because he thought it was a cool thing. So, he was only suspended for 5 days-which is still a tough call, as the kid STILL doesnt understand why he cannot go to school.
Zero tolerance is a lazy man's policy. I think these two cases, the one of the Eagle Scout, and the one with the Cub Scout, are clear examples of why blanket policies fail. The first one, there wasnt any REASON for it; the second one, the kid is too young to understand the sentence imposed on him. And, seriously...a 45 day suspension & 6 months in reform school-are were TRYING to create delinquency here?

Apparently the boy is very well prepared and the perfect candidate for West Point.
The scout with the SAK with the mess set was also in the news today and is back in school. Thankfully everyone has come to their senses. Just when I was about to throw my hands up and move to a 10x10 shack in the middle of Montana....nothing wrong with Montana, by the way.
It's just pitiful that we need to justify our being prepared nowadays.

The school district would have it better if they just labotimized students. That way their post powerful weapon would not be on school grounds. Then again, looking at public schools, perhaps that's the case for most of them.

Shades of Pink and the wall...

Effectively, they already do so chemically. Look at the increasing percentage of students on psychotropic medication.