Originally Posted By: CANOEDOGS

YT and others..sorry about the sorry state of my posting,if i was any good at this i would have a blog or something.when i said start a fire i was thinking of a open fire.you need the stove and it's fuel to get along.no BOB's,they are just camping gear by the door.i'm thinking of a overboard and washed ashore or get out of the wrecked whatever with the sealed kit that has been under the seat for years semi-forgotten.that kind of stove.
the questions will become apparent in a few weeks when i'm working out the Ditch Vest for next years canoe trips.
so it sounds like you're not really talking about building a fire instead of a stove, you just want a small vest stove. something you can carry on your person in the event you lose your gear (?).

FWIW, I've noticed most people seem to have stoves as a safety net in the event that building a fire is not an option (such as no wood available), or as a quicker and easier way to boil some water for cooking (which can be beneficial when it's dark or wet, or you're tired). I don't think that discussing the preferred stoves means alternate methods aren't also considered. The thread is titled "backpacking/survival stove", so it makes sense to me that backpack stoves (and not pocket stoves) are what have been discussed so far. smile But I like the idea of pocket stoves.


Originally Posted By: UpstateTom
For a vest survival stove, I'd go with an emergency esbit stove, a couple of tabs and a bic lighter.
IIRC esbit tabs work wet or dry, yes? I could see that being handy that purpose.
Or as Art_in_FL mentioned, putting a trangia burner in a pocket should also work. The clickstands are on the expensive side, but pack very small so they might be pocket-friendly.

as an alternative to a clickstand, I've always admired this cheap, light and small stove setup which could be used with a trangia burner instead of a coke stove: http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18507 (I don't know if Woods Walker is on this forum as well)