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| #182717 - 09/21/09 05:41 AM  Re: If you had to choose...
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It depends on where I am or what I'm doing. For example: In the winter around here, something that can start a fire would be my #1 priority. I could freeze to death by the time I got a fire started with just a knife.    But, in the desert, on the other hand, probably water would be #1. I wouldn't make it too far without that.  With that in mind, picking just one for every situation would be tough. |  
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| #182718 - 09/21/09 06:24 AM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: scafool] |  
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What I found out about bic lighters is the button can get compressed and empty them. I try to get the ones that lock the fuel off when I can. I couldn't find any friday so I bought a package of bics again.
You may want to try putting a small ziptie under the button.  At least it works on the mini-bic.  Not sure if it would work on the full size though.       |  
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| #182727 - 09/21/09 01:41 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: LED] |  
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If I could only choose 1 item, it would be a truck full of food.    Knife, for sure. 
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| #182729 - 09/21/09 01:46 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: el_diabl0] |  
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A Striker with a Carbon Steel Mora Knife as its Steel 
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| #182730 - 09/21/09 01:55 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: BruceZed] |  
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| #182733 - 09/21/09 02:43 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: Tyber] |  
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Lessee...  Assuming you don't have a "get out of jail free" card like a PLB or working cellphone.  In order of priority, each subsequent item assumes you have all the previous ones:  
 1. Knife
 2. Firestarter (Bic or ferro rod)
 3. Metal cooking container (purify water and cook)
 4. Poncho/liner (mobile shelter)
 5. Stainless steel wire (lashing, sewing, snares, fishhooks)
 6. Canteen/water bottle (water storage & transport)
 7. Paracord (infinite uses)
 8. ...
 
 If only one item, I would have to think hard about knife vs. firestarter.  In winter I would lean heavily towards the firestarter, in summer I'd almost certainly want the knife.
 
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| #182737 - 09/21/09 03:41 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
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for a everyday item--no big bucks PLB kind of stuff but just pick it up off the desk on the way out for a hike that go's bad it would be a lighter.i can always kick down enough brush to make a shelter and bust sticks for a fire that would keep me warm and dry and make smoke for a signal. I've been debating this since the original post, and this is where I ended up, too. Currently, my ability to cope without a knife is greater than my ability to cope without some kind of fire-starter. And a lighter gives me the best chance of actually starting that fire.
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| #182738 - 09/21/09 03:43 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: thseng] |  
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I think we need to look back at the OP.If you were limited to one EDC item.
 I am not likely to carry a locator beacon with me to the store, even GPS would be an unlikely pocket item.
 
 Lighters and small pocket knives are in the pocket trash class.
 So is a bit of string or wire, a few bandaids, a button compass, and a host of similar items.
 From there it moves up to a personal FAK and the BOB levels.
 
 The point that at least one person made about when and where you are makes some difference, but as EDC I think in general terms, and then modify what I do actually have to the situation I am expecting.
 If I am boating on a lake I want a life jacket, if I am driving in the desert I want full water jugs, but neither of those make it as EDC
 
 Edited by scafool (09/21/09 03:53 PM)
 
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| #182743 - 09/21/09 04:13 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: scafool] |  
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Let see, I have two sets of keys on a small D-ring. 
 On #1: my car key with a photon light, that I used on a mine tour this weekend.
 
 On #2: my office key ring, I have a LM micra that I used the scissors this morning.
 
 So I suppose, I go betw. a light & a knife as the most likely item I would have on me in an emergency, (excluding the the EDC that is within 3' of me 95% of the day)
 
 But I think back to the book that have given more than any other (for a variety of reasons) to friends. A book I quoted to a group of employees doing a Grand Canyon hike next month, Cody Lundins, 98.6 degrees: the art of keeping your ass alive. I said, "Regulate your body heat. Layer for the rim, be able to strip down in the inner gorge."
 
 Keeping with: your stranded or stuck with one item only, it doesn't preclude you being able to move around to find water or shelter or a sharp object for cutting.  Keeping your body temperature in the right area is what is going to keep you alive.
 
 So in the end I suppose I need to put my Light My Fire Firesteel on my key chain.
 
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| #182745 - 09/21/09 04:18 PM  Re: If you had to choose...
[Re: comms] |  
|   Pooh-Bah
 
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You know Comms, you made me stop and think a bit.Yes, a jacket would be top on the list.
 Especially because it is something I don't really think about but always make sure I have when I go for a walk.
 The weather can change awfully fast and it is always colder at night.
 
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