#181555 - 09/06/09 10:00 PM
Bearbag high enough?
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Found this on the internet and initially thought it was funny, then I though "hey, that could be my food bag!!!!". Then I thought, "samhain, you goof. When was the last time you saw a bear in the wild?"... Bear on a Rope...
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#181558 - 09/06/09 10:12 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: samhain]
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Registered: 06/04/08
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Loc: Colorado
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What are the anchors on that line? What's the test of the line?
Looks staged.
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#181560 - 09/06/09 10:16 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: yelp]
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Registered: 11/25/06
Posts: 742
Loc: MA
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The way I see it, the bear goes through tha much trouble...well, he can have whatever he is after...
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#181566 - 09/06/09 11:45 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: oldsoldier]
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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He was only after bird feed there. Imagine how persistent he might be for meat. People forget that bears are just walking garbage cans...
"Irving! IRVING! Leave that stupid bird feeder alone! You look like an idiot up there, what will the neighbors think? Come on, I've got a noseful of raw steaks in a cooler at a campsite over the rise. IRVING, DID YOU HEAR ME?!"
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#181582 - 09/07/09 03:22 AM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: samhain]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA
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Samhain--you got it!!.the last bear i saw in the wild was running up a hill.he even left the fish he was working on when i paddled by..i think most people get there bear/wild animal information off the covers of old Outdoor Life magazines. having said that i still hang high..it's many-many days back to the landing. your in more danger slipping on a root or tripping a rock and busting something than any rampaging bears.
Edited by CANOEDOGS (09/07/09 03:25 AM)
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#181584 - 09/07/09 04:07 AM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
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A good site with material on bear behavior, http://www.bear.org/website/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=100001There are just a couple of cautions about it. Bear, and any other large animals, even including deer, are capable of doing a lot of damage and you can never really be sure how they will react in any situation or at any time. Remember that and give them the respect which they deserve. Respecting them means having a healthy sense of caution, it does not mean unreasonable fear or abject terror. Respecting them also means taking steps to keep the bears out of trouble. Things like not baiting them into your camping spots by leaving your leftover food laying around. I see bears around fairly often, but in the woods they are usually moving away and you are more likely to step in a steaming pile of bear crap on the trail than to even see a bear's big butt going over the hill. It is the ones that have gotten used to people and come into towns or camps looking for food that worry me the most. Since the spring bear hunts were stopped in northern Ontario there have been many more bears in contact with humans. They have become quite bold about entering towns to raid the garbage bins. PS. Bear on a rope looks like a cub of the year and the worry is more about where Momma is.
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#181592 - 09/07/09 07:37 AM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
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Registered: 06/03/09
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Loc: Norway
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Bears are highly intelligent and they learn pretty quick that campsites are pretty interesting places to look for food. I've read stories where they've learnt that at the other end of any rope is dangling a bag of goodies, break that rope and the goodies fall down... Enter bear canisters. Last story I've heard, a small, elderly bear in Yellowstone specalized in opening those. Hopefully she's not passing that skill to other bears.
For the best interests of both people and bears people should make their campsites as uninteresting as possible, but given humans capacity to learn from other peoples mistakes I am not exactly optimistic... It takes only a few idiots to educate bears into campsites = fun & food, and it's really hard to undo that learning.
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#181610 - 09/07/09 03:31 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: samhain]
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here in california, in many areas, hanging food is not an acceptable manner of food storage - persistent bears will get their food.
some of the hard canisters (1) stored well away from the campsite, and (2) your food preparation area kept well away from your sleeping area have been found to be best.
the bears learn fast.
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#181615 - 09/07/09 04:11 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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"...you will most likely not be trying to survive in a well used camp ground..."
You can be caught in a survival situation ANYWHERE! A well-used campground in summer isn't necessarily a well-used campground in early spring or winter.
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#181622 - 09/07/09 04:33 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
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Registered: 02/16/08
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Loc: Central California
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#181636 - 09/07/09 10:33 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: Susan]
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He was only after bird feed there. Imagine how persistent he might be for meat. People forget that bears are just walking garbage cans...
"Irving! IRVING! Leave that stupid bird feeder alone! You look like an idiot up there, what will the neighbors think? Come on, I've got a noseful of raw steaks in a cooler at a campsite over the rise. IRVING, DID YOU HEAR ME?!" Awwww, Mom!!! ( Irving climbs down rolling his eyes and hoping mom doesn't see him do it....)
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#181645 - 09/08/09 01:37 AM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: Susan]
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Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1928
Loc: Mountains of CA
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"...you will most likely not be trying to survive in a well used camp ground..."
You can be caught in a survival situation ANYWHERE! A well-used campground in summer isn't necessarily a well-used campground in early spring or winter. And those are the best times to use said campgrounds Nice to have the entire place to yourself, and it cost $0.
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#181664 - 09/08/09 04:57 PM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: Todd W]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 2463
Loc: Central California
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Agree the "shoulder seasons" are often the best times to be anywhere outdoors.
Problem with lax bear precautions is that, however the short-term may inconvenience humans (or worse), the bears pretty much always face death as a result of most interactions with humans.
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#181770 - 09/09/09 04:12 AM
Re: Bearbag high enough?
[Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
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Thanks for the info about the picture and the bear attack.
I understand what you are saying about how you think of survival situations. My interpretation of survival situation is a bit wider in scope I guess. To me a survival situation is being in any position that places my life at risk. That means anything from toxic spills, power outages, getting caught in a storm, fires, accidents,...the list can go on a long way and even includes getting stranded in the bush.
The thing is that we don't get to choose where or when TSHTF. You could slip in the tub, break some bones and find yourself in a survival situation right then and there, especially if there was nobody handy to hear you fall, or prepared to act even if they did hear you.
IMHO the biggest part of survival is not getting yourself into survival situations if you can help it. That is why I prepare and equip. If I am prepared and equipped for getting stranded overnight in the bush then it is just an extra overnight camp or two instead of a survival situation.
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