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#181297 - 09/03/09 06:44 PM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: tomfaranda]
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Here is a single report on the Tylenol/liver damage article I mentioned from earlier this year. Turns out it was July.

> LINK HERE <
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#181299 - 09/03/09 06:51 PM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: comms]
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Interesting. Here's a commentary on the above study.

http://www.medicinenet.com/tylenol_liver_damage/article.htm

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#181302 - 09/03/09 07:15 PM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: tomfaranda]
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Are you posting that as a contrary point of view to the my link? (shrug) If you are, so be it. The commentary doesn't refute acetaminophen causes liver damage, it just debates the amounts and conditions.

One damages the kidneys, one damages the liver. So does rabbit punches from Chuck Liddell and so does whiskey.
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#181303 - 09/03/09 07:15 PM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: tomfaranda]
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Originally Posted By: tomfaranda
Interesting. Here's a commentary on the above study.

http://www.medicinenet.com/tylenol_liver_damage/article.htm

And from the bottom of page one of that article:
Thus, recommended doses of Tylenol given to healthy subjects for two weeks can cause mild to moderate reversible liver injury. Tylenol, like all other medications should be used cautiously under a doctor's supervision with monitoring of liver enzyme levels.

Not exactly reassuring, but at least there's no mention of endrocrine disruption effects. whistle
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#181334 - 09/04/09 01:48 AM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: comms]
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Originally Posted By: comms
Are you posting that as a contrary point of view to the my link? (shrug) If you are, so be it. The commentary doesn't refute acetaminophen causes liver damage, it just debates the amounts and conditions.

One damages the kidneys, one damages the liver. So does rabbit punches from Chuck Liddell and so does whiskey.


I'm just presenting it as additional information. I have no "skin in the game" on this.

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#181346 - 09/04/09 04:19 AM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: tomfaranda]
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IMHO any medicine powerful enough to do you much good is going to be powerful enough to do harm if misused.

I have found that Ibuprofen, 200mg, works better for me on joint pain better than any of the other common OTC pain relievers. Also seems to work well for tooth and sinus issues.

I have it on good authority that Acetaminophen can be very toxic to the liver. Chugging down a bottle of extra-strength is a common way of committing suicide. A difficult one to counter seeing as the liver dies and once gone the only option is a transplant. It is a slow, painful and messy way to die.

Related to this, don't use Acetaminophen, Tylenol, to treat a hangover. Alcohol is tough on the liver. Adding the toxic effects on the liver from Acetaminophen can be too much. Livers are tough, they are one of the few organs that can regenerate itself if you don't poison it too much, but there are limits.

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#181382 - 09/04/09 02:58 PM Re: Ibuprofen Help or Hurt During Exercise? [Re: tomfaranda]
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Originally Posted By: tomfaranda
Originally Posted By: comms
Are you posting that as a contrary point of view to the my link? (shrug) If you are, so be it. The commentary doesn't refute acetaminophen causes liver damage, it just debates the amounts and conditions.

One damages the kidneys, one damages the liver. So does rabbit punches from Chuck Liddell and so does whiskey.


I'm just presenting it as additional information. I have no "skin in the game" on this.


Great Tom, keep posting.
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