Originally Posted By: Stu
1 permit per person wopuld be a good rule


+1. If ten are going to do the hike/climb/etc then ten can get their butts out of bed and stand in line. I've played this game for years at Zion, Grand Canyon, Canyonlands and I totally understand the frustration. The tactic that I've employed for years is to go off season. Zion weather is great in Oct, Nov. wink
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