electronics work better when wet but flint-wheel lighters work better than electronics when both are empty. A flint wheel may be dried but it is quite difficult to light anything but the butane with the tiny peizo spark from and electronic lighter and getting the spark out of the head of the lighter is quite difficult. The flint wheel of a bic may be easliy exposed by whacking off the windscreen and it will throw enough spark to light the frayed end of the cotton cord that is wrapped conveniently around the lighter uncer the ranger band that supplies the kindling.