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#175222 - 06/23/09 10:36 PM Blade angle on a RSK MK3
SheetBend Offline
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Registered: 09/18/03
Posts: 26
Loc: California, U.S.A.
What do you use for the blade angle on your RSK MK3 and why?
20 degrees, 25 degrees, 30 degrees?
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#175235 - 06/24/09 10:42 AM Re: Blade angle on a RSK MK3 [Re: SheetBend]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
I don't have a RSK, and I don't usually measure the edge angle when I sharpen a blade.
However it does depend on what the knife is cutting like.
If the edge is not biting well I reduce the angle, if it is dulling to fast I increase the angle.

Too fine of an edge either crumbles or folds depending on how hard the steel is, and too obtuse of an edge angle does not slice well.

The extremes would be the acute edge angle of a razor and the obtuse angle of a cold chisel.
You would never think of shaving with a cold chisel, or of driving a razor blade through a steel bar with a hammer.

A straight razor is about 15 degrees.
Most kitchen knives are between 20 and 25 degrees.
Most wood carving and general use knives are 25 to 35 degrees.
A cold chisel is about 45 degrees.
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#175263 - 06/24/09 09:36 PM Re: Blade angle on a RSK MK3 [Re: scafool]
SheetBend Offline
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Registered: 09/18/03
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Loc: California, U.S.A.
Does any one know what the edge angle of a new RSK MK3?
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#175264 - 06/24/09 10:20 PM Re: Blade angle on a RSK MK3 [Re: SheetBend]
Art_in_FL Offline
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Registered: 09/01/07
Posts: 2432
Bottom line here is that there is no ideal sharpening angle. I have over the decades seen angles as fine as 15 degrees and a wide as 30 degrees recommended for pocket knives. The finer angles seem to be more popular.

A lot depends on how you want the blade to function. A fine angle tends to operate like a razor and slice well. Down side is that given the same steel fine edges don't last as long as wider angles. Thinner angles are more prone to damage if used for scraping, cutting materials with mixed densities and brute force use like batoning.

Wider grinds act more like wedges and operate well for chopping and use as a chisel. They support the edge better and so hold up to hard use, scraping, abrasive materials, and using the edge to pry up flakes. To the bad wider grinds can require more force to get through fibrous materials and cuts through delicate materials can tend to tear and distort.

A lot depends on personal preference, what your doing, and how you're doing it. If you like a super sharp and delicate blade a finer grind is what you want. If your handier with a glorified lawn mower blade swung with brute force and ignorance to chop through everything from raw meat to concrete your going to want a wider grind.

My preference is for something like eighteen to twenty-five degrees. The exact angle is seldom a concern and plus or minus a degree or two makes little difference in function. Consistency of the angle your holding as you sharpen and along the blade is much more important than the exact angle.

A friend claims the 'along the blade' angle is not important as he sharpens his pocket knife with a fine angle in the tip, where a lot of fine work gets done, and a fairly wide angle closer to the handle, where your more likely to use it as a wedge. I could never get the hang of such a variable sharpening angle but it works well for him.

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#175634 - 07/04/09 03:46 PM Re: Blade angle on a RSK MK3 [Re: SheetBend]
WB2QGZ Offline
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Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 25
Loc: FN30gq Long Island, NY
Just got around to cleaning up a couple of knives and checked the notes in my kit on my MK1. I'm going to assume that this is the same blade style/geometry as the MK3??

I think it came with a convex grind, but not sure, I ended up making a 25 degree angle and that works for me. I'm sure some may consider this desecration of the factory grind, but for my abusive day to day use it works. I touch it up with a Gatco fine abrasive and then the ultra fine (looks ceramic) hones about once every 4 to 6 months.

I understand that Benchmade will re-sharpen for a pretty minimal charge, that's an option too. I just prefer to be self sufficent and found this angle to be workable and easily duplicatable.

Sheet Bend: As this reply is a month or so after the post, what did you end up using?

Bill

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