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#173703 - 05/23/09 03:37 PM Artificial sweeteners"YUK!"
boatman Offline
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Registered: 03/10/03
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Loc: Michigan
I need some help please.Any thing with artificial sweeteners make me sick.I don't know if this is an allergy or just a sensitivity,and I don't care.I just know that they leave a bad taist in my mouth(literally)and my stomach doing flip-flops.You would be surprised at how many kinds of fake sweeteners there are.Even Splenda which is derived from sugar bothers me.I had some good old TANG the other day and I get sick.I checked the ingredients and I found it has sucralose(generic name for Splenda i think)in it.
So my question is what sport drinks and mixes are artificial sweetener free? I am also trying to find energy bars that are also free of that stuff.Sucralose,maltitol,aspartame,sacarine are starting to be in any thing.I have even found it in "natural" products.
So please help in my search? I am lucky to have found a tooth paist(Toms of Maine)that is natural.I thank you in advance.
BOATMAN
John


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#173706 - 05/23/09 04:47 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: boatman]
Arney Offline
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Depending on whom you ask, most artificial sweeteners leave some sort of discernible aftertaste. Splenda seems to have the least aftertaste, in my own experience. However, I stopped using it since I have read research that shows that it is harmful to the natural bacteria that live in our guts. Depending on what you mean by your stomach doing "flip-flops," it's possible that the Splenda is throwing off the balance of bacteria in your gut and that is causing problems for you.

As for a sports/rehydration drink, I have long recommended Vitalyte (formerly called Hydralyte and formerly-formerly called Gookinaid). You'll probably have to order it online from their website, although I have seen it sold at REI. You might be able to find another merchant that carries it on their website. It's an excellent sports drink with no artificial sweeteners. I'm reading the label right now--glucose and fructose (glucose is not sweet, which is the reason for the fructose). It does have an allergy warning that the glucose is derived from corn, which may or may not apply to you.

I also drink this when I am sick. Sometimes your body's natural ability to absorb water can be compromised. Have you ever noticed having diarrhea for some reason, like maybe a stomach virus or eating spoiled food, and if you drink a lot of plain water, it just seems to "run through" you? A rehydration drink helps your body absorb the water in cases like that. It can make a noticeable difference in how you feel when you're sick, from my own experience.

Although you didn't mention it specifically, fat substitutes do a real number on me. I'm specifically thinking of Olestra. I tried some Pringles potato chips made with Olestra--actually, I think it was this small, free can of Pringles that came in the mail or something a number of years ago. Anyway, I'm never going to touch anything with Olestra again.

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#173708 - 05/23/09 05:12 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: Arney]
JohnE Offline
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The original sports drink, "Gatorade" has no artificial sweeteners, unless you count high fructose corn syrup.

Very easy to find, it's even easy to make a good substitute for it out of Koolaid, salt, and baking soda.

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#173711 - 05/23/09 06:40 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: JohnE]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA

Sports Drinks _ Are They Safe?
http://www.karinya.com/sportsdrinks.htm

Europe doesn't use the gross amount of high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) in their soft drinks like America does, they use real sugar. You can taste the difference in European Coke as opposed to American Coke. Maybe you can track down a sports drink made in Europe that doesn't use artificial sweeteners OR HFCS.

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#173712 - 05/23/09 07:33 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: boatman]
raptor Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
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I avoid artifical sweeteners. I havenīt had any medical problems caused by them but I just donīt trust them that they are 100% OK.

Fortunately I can find quite a lot of products with real sugar here where I live.

This is quite interesting documentary about artificial sweetener aspartam: Sweet misery: A poisoned world

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#173713 - 05/23/09 08:06 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: boatman]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Quote:
So my question is what sport drinks and mixes are artificial sweetener free?


Lager Shandy or a Banana and some water. smile


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#173718 - 05/24/09 01:43 AM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
boatman Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Thank you for the replies.I do not have any problem with HFCS. I do agree that carbonated soft drinks taist better made with sugar.Here in Michigan I buy the Mexican sodas and they taist great.I couldn't remember about Gatorade as I didn't have any on hand.Sugar in the Raw is good.I use it when I want to sweeten a hot tea(not often)and never in my coffee.So again i thank you fine people.But I am still trying to find an energy bar that is artificial sweetener free.I appreciate the help.

BOATMAN
John

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#173721 - 05/24/09 03:33 AM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: boatman]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
There are multiple online recipes for making your own energy bars with honey or sugar.
Sweetened drinks are largely ignored in the survivalist literature because of very painfull experiences never mentioned.
One of the early paramilitary gurus grew weary of licking oil tainted water from black helicopter skid marks and bought a military surplus Katyden.It wasn't the same, so he located a beehive, shimmied up the tree and cut it free with his 5 lb, fossil ivory handled and proprietory mystery steel Tactical Survival Knife. He doesn't talk much about what happened next, but friends say his AR 15 rig came home with all 2,500 rounds from his daypack expended and none of the brass saved for reloading. Afterwards he became an early advocate of the .17 rimfire.
It was on the other coast that a buckskin clad member of the primative movement accepted a class challenge to gather honey like his Chippewa spirit guide.After making fire with a bowdrill he 'smoked' the hive with what turned out to be posion ivy. His insect field I.D. book failed to show africanised bees from natives. His whispering of the 'bee collecting thankyou prayer' was niether understood or appreciated by the bees.
Of course, Bear just orders up his favourite at the hotels.
Rumours of ETS are just that: Expect no Ritter rattlenake Raspberry soon.
Drinks are like any other kit the industry can't seem to make to our individual satisfaction.Sometimes you have to make your own ;o)


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#173726 - 05/24/09 04:09 AM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: boatman]
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
Water, lemon, honey, and some cayenne pepper extract. Makes a nice drink with a kick.

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#173848 - 05/27/09 02:20 AM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: LED]
Art_in_FL Offline
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Who needs sports drinks or sodas or energy bars? Humans have done a lot of really remarkable things without them. How about drinking water, perhaps a lick of salt or a dash of apple cider vinegar if your sweating a huge amount, and eating real food. Skip the energy bars and have some raisins and nuts.

Frontiersmen often got along with a diet of parched corn, jerky, and pemmican. 90% of the claims about increased performance with sports drinks and energy bars are pure BS. Most of the situations where they might make some small amount of difference are inapplicable to normal people.


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#174103 - 06/01/09 05:31 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: boatman]
raptor Offline
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I came across article called "Make your own sports drink" on BBC Sport Academy.

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#174168 - 06/02/09 05:33 AM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: raptor]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
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"I came across article called "Make your own sports drink" on BBC Sport Academy."

Where are you going to find squash concentrates here in the U.S.? If you know, please post, as I would like to know.

Sue

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#174178 - 06/02/09 12:47 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: Art_in_FL]
MDinana Offline
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Originally Posted By: Art_in_FL

Frontiersmen often got along with a diet of parched corn, jerky, and pemmican. 90% of the claims about increased performance with sports drinks and energy bars are pure BS. Most of the situations where they might make some small amount of difference are inapplicable to normal people.


Just to be argumentative Art... smile

Frontiersmen didn't run half-marathons, Iron-Mans, or 100-mile bike rides. They usually had a horse or some other beast of burden doing their heavy carrying. They also lived hard and died (relatively) young. Though I'm sure they had some great stories to tell, and lives much more outgoing than the typical American worker!

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#174179 - 06/02/09 01:40 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: MDinana]
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Registered: 02/24/03
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Loc: Rhode Island
Check out the natural/organic aisles in your grocery store, Boatman, or join your local co-op if you have one. I don't like the taste of artificial sweeteners and am trying to avoid high fructose corn syrup whenever possible, so when we buy juice or soft drinks we look for stuff made from cane juice or raw sugar.

As far as "energy bars" go, easy recipes can be found on the internet (I make protein bars for my husband), or look for Clif bars, Luna bars, or Larabars. They can be kind of pricey but are super tasty.
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#174183 - 06/02/09 02:21 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: Susan]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
The HFCS economics and health implications are astounding. The subsidy since the mid 1990s to HFSC produces has been estimated at $40 Billion. (nearly 10 million metric tonnes of HFCS produced anually)

A $40 Billion subsidy would provide enough micro-generation solar PV electricity to supply over 8 million households (5-6 large cities the size of Los Angeles) at a typical $5000 installation for a 1 kW system (around 1800 kW hr/year for each household, enough to cover energy efficient lighting, refrigeration, cooking etc with the end users not having to pay another electricity bill for the next 30 years.

Considering the health implications where the average citizen may typically be consuming 32kg of HFSC per year (more than a lb a week) its almost as if the HFCS subsidy is a boon for the agrochemical/pharmaceutical industry with the same corporate executives on the boards of the HFSC producers, the food manufacturers, the media communications and the pharmaceutical corporate industries. Anyone would think it was a coordinated government corporate conspiracy to get everyone fat at the expense of the environment. whistle





Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (06/02/09 02:23 PM)

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#174190 - 06/02/09 04:03 PM Re: Artificial sweeteners"YUK!" [Re: Susan]
raptor Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 288
Loc: Europe
Sorry Sue, I have no idea. I donīt live in U.S.
What exactly is fruit squash? Is it just a juice squeezed from a fruit? Or does it contain flesh of the fruit?

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