#173143 - 05/11/09 07:55 PM
I Hate Computers...
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/28/01
Posts: 2207
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But cannot do what I do without them so...
My existing Dell desktop is continuing to have problems. Dell has been less than helpful in sorting out problems. First they said it was faulty memory and we replaced the 2GB memory. Didn't fix anything. Guess I shouldn't expect it to last more than 3 years 10 months. :-( So far have managed not to put my fist through the wall or toss the computer through the window. <~>
Anyway, I am about fed up with Dell. Looking for suggestions.
Plan to run Win XP which is what I have on all the other computers in the house. DO NOT want Vista
Need a pretty high performance machine as I am doing a lot with it including video and such. Had planned to up RAM to 4 GB, but then started with these problems.
Running dual widescreen monitors. They are fine, don't need to replace them.
Have a 2 drive RAID array, which has worked well to save my butt without interruption when one drive died.
Money is tight, no surprise. ETS Foundation is not exactly swimming in cash. Rather just fix the damn computer, but not having much luck with that. (I am NOT a techie type, computus ignoramus here, can follow directions, but...) Suggestions welcome.
TIA,
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#173145 - 05/11/09 08:15 PM
Re: I Hate Computers...
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/28/01
Posts: 2207
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More info in response to a post on another forum:
Sorry, was more looking for new computer suggestions.
Computer was giving me BSOD. After much effort, Dell said replace the memory, that didn't help. Still crashed, often on boot up, sometimes soon after. No patternb. We used the CD and tried a Windwoes Repair, but it won't reboot anymore after that. IOW, it wouldn't reboot at all after we did the repair and it reached the reboot point. Freezes up with the XP screen and the little blue things running across the screen. That's repeatable. At a friend's suggestion we installed a new copy of Windwoes in a new directory and it boots fine, but of course is naked and dosn't even see the second montior. That would seem to suggest Windwoes is corrupted, seems to me. Dell's answer is to reformat the hard drives and start from scratch. Given how much effort that would take, this computer took the better part of 1.5 weeks to get everything loaded and set up, rather just start with a new computer without a history of problems. :-( I do have, supposedly, full back ups, but who knows. My orevious luck withy those has been less than great. It's a Windwoes backup, no floppy, which supposedly means soemthing to someone who knows. Data is backed up online. I can see the C: drive using the new Windwoes and can likely copy it to a USB drive so I guess that's a good thing. <shrug>
Edited by Doug_Ritter (05/11/09 08:15 PM)
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#173150 - 05/11/09 10:26 PM
Re: I Hate Computers...
[Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Cranky Geek
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Registered: 09/08/05
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Loc: Vermont
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Echo that, I'm leaning towards MoBo. General rule of thumb, if you pull a MoBo or power supply, pull them both out AND the RAM. But try the BIOS settings first.
That being said, I've seen a lot of Dell's just decide they don't like RAM any more. The RAM is usually still OK, but the glitch is on one of the controllers on the MoBo. When I did tech support in college we had them shipping us replacement parts pretty much weekly.
A NEW XP friendly computer is getting harder and harder to do unless you want to build your own. If you are going to buy one, don't do anything with any of the chains and big makers, spend a little more and find an independent who will work with you. The chains and builders is that they have deals with Meglosoft that bar them from putting XP on most machines these days. There was a special waiver for the netbooks and some other small, lower performance machines, and AFAIK, that's it.
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#173154 - 05/11/09 11:07 PM
Re: I Hate Computers...
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 162
Loc: Korea
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Like it or not, you will have to either
a) reinstall Windows
or
b) buy a new system
Either way you will have to spend another week and a half setting it up. Option (a) saves money, since it seems there is really nothing wrong with the PC.
Unfortunately there is no way to do this without expending any effort. No-one likes to be told that, but they all know it to be the case. You should have a better backup strategy so that if this happens you can quickly restore and get under way again (no-one likes to be told that either). RAID is not a backup strategy. Supposedly having a backup "but who knows?" is also not a backup strategy.
There are a few things you can do to get back to where you were. First, check the RAM. A good way to do this is with the free 'memtest' software. A good way to get this is to get hold of a Linux live CD such as Ubuntu or Mepis (or make your own bootable CD with only memtest on it). Run it overnight and see what it comes up with. Next, the quickest solution I can see is to just start using the new Windows install that you made. It works, so just add all the bits that are missing. Another thing, have you tried rolling back the drivers to a previous state? You might have to boot XP into safe mode, but I have never needed to do this, so I don't know the procedure. These days I run Linux.
HTH,
A
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#173157 - 05/11/09 11:48 PM
Re: I Hate Computers...
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Registered: 03/24/07
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Aargh, I feel your pain, having recently run into a similar problem. I wanted to throw the thing against the wall. Wish I could help but it sounds like you know more than I do about these things. I could buy some ETS gear if that'll help fund repairs or replacement of your computer.
Edited by Henry_Porter (05/11/09 11:48 PM) Edit Reason: typo
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#173160 - 05/12/09 12:03 AM
Re: I Hate Computers...
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
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Try this; http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=5097If this fails to resolve the problem, you could have permanently damaged sectors on the hard drive. Sometimes these are repairable (if only for a short period of time to allow you to back up the data from the damaged part of the hard drive) To check for this, many Hard drive manufacturers will have a down-loadable utility such as the Western Digital Data Lifeguard Diagnostics/health check utility to burn to a bootable CD to check the hard drive health as the hard drive might be approaching the wrong end of the bathtub curve.
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#173161 - 05/12/09 12:04 AM
Re: I Hate Computers...
[Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Member
Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 162
Loc: Korea
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Don't you have a tame geek nearby?
I'd gladly help, except I am in Korea.
A
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