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#169119 - 03/11/09 01:57 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: TheSock]
MDinana Offline
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You're pulling against the force that the cork, which is stuck in the bottle. So, true, the user isn't "applying" force, the cork actually is.

And since the corkscrew is attached via a joint, there is force being transmitted along that joint into the handle. That little screw in the joint (or divot, or whatever it's called) is the most likely piece to break in actual use.


Edited by MDinana (03/11/09 02:00 PM)
Edit Reason: clarification

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#169124 - 03/11/09 02:38 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: MDinana]
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Ah, now I understand what you are saying. But really,have you ever known anyone break one of these corkscrews? They knew what they were designing them for.
A 'Butlers friend' is cute. You can remove the corkscrew; have a sip, then replace it with no one knowing :-). Hence the name.
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#169127 - 03/11/09 02:44 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: MDinana]
haertig Offline
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Originally Posted By: MDinana
Just not a good idea, IMO, to be pulling with 100lbs of force on that little hinge.

shocked

I don't drink much wine. Do they, like, weld those corks in there?! You'd have to have two Sumo wrestlers using the buddy system to get that thing open.

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#169128 - 03/11/09 02:53 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: haertig]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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I don't drink much wine. Do they, like, weld those corks in there?! You'd have to have two Sumo wrestlers using the buddy system to get that thing open.


Sometimes it can be tough to get the cork out and you can definitely struggle with even the cork screw on a SAK.

Best to use one of these;

http://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-USA-Campagnolo-Corkscrew/dp/B001KKOEFG

or just get a bottle of wine with a screw top or just drink some Port.



Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (03/11/09 02:55 PM)

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#169129 - 03/11/09 02:54 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: MDinana]
Rodion Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
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Originally Posted By: MDinana
You're pulling against the force that the cork, which is stuck in the bottle. So, true, the user isn't "applying" force, the cork actually is.

And since the corkscrew is attached via a joint, there is force being transmitted along that joint into the handle. That little screw in the joint (or divot, or whatever it's called) is the most likely piece to break in actual use.


Meh, never broke one.
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#169133 - 03/11/09 04:46 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
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or just get a bottle of wine with a screw top or just drink some Port.


This is the kind of innovative thinking that has made this forum a great forum. This begs the question "what is the ideal PSK alcohol-bearing drink?". Probably not wine- low etoh content, heavy glass container, difficult access with one hand disabled. Would it be everclear in a nalgene bottle? 151 rum in a coconut shell? or should we consider tablet-form pharmaceuticals with effects similar to ethanol, like valium or ativan?
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#169134 - 03/11/09 04:55 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: nursemike]
Mike_H Offline
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Been using the corkscrew on my SAK for a long time now... Never had an issue with it...
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#169136 - 03/11/09 05:10 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
[quote]...snip...
Best to use one of these;

http://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-USA-Campagnolo-Corkscrew/dp/B001KKOEFG

or just get a bottle of wine with a screw top or just drink some Port.



I knew a guy who had one, got it as a gift from Campy USA, then again, he was the local Campy dealer, and had the full set of Super Record tools (including all the frame builders tools). Guess he gave them enough money over the years

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#169139 - 03/11/09 05:26 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: KG2V]
tomfaranda Offline
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Registered: 02/14/08
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Loc: Croton on Hudson, NY
YES, I have broken a corkscrew on a folder while attempting to pull a corkscrewe out.

And I remember it well. 18 months ago at the end of a six mile walk, using my buck summit the corkscrew part actually pulled out of the knife, while trying to yank the cork out. It broke at the base of the screw, not the joint.

Pretty shocking since the knife is otherwise great. I got the cork out using an SAK with a corkscrew.


Victorinox has a knife called "the waiter" which is their smallest knife with a corkscrew. Also has a knife and combo toll -can opener, bottle opener, screwdriver. Works well.

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#169140 - 03/11/09 05:28 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Equipped4Chicago]
jamesraykenney Offline
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Registered: 03/12/04
Posts: 316
Loc: Beaumont, TX USA
Originally Posted By: Equipped4Chicago
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I have the Benchmade knife from Doug Ritter (the yellow one...but I think I ruined the bladed trying to cut some tree sticks)
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What exactaly did you do to it?!!!



On the main question...
Don't you carry a large blade too?
Just use the la saberage technique.
Here is how to do it...



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